Author Archives: Cheryl D
May 19: Cunning, Baffling, Powerful
Cunning, Baffling, Powerful
May 12: Freedom
Freedom
May 05: Step 5
Step 5
Apr 28: HOW
HOW
There are a lot of acronyms in the program of AA. One that has been significant to me is HOW. HOW— Honest, Open, and Willing. When I was drinking, I was dishonest, closed to suggestions, and unwilling to make changes in my life. I thought everyone else was the problem—they caused me to drink. The whole idea of being honest scared me to the core. I was afraid if people found out who I was they wouldn’t like me. When I heard that HOW was a way to live I didn’t think I could do it. It was daunting. My sponsor suggested that I pray to become willing– willing to be open and willing to be honest. That’s what I did. That was and still is a scary prayer…”God help me be willing to work these steps, willing to take suggestions, willing to humble myself, willing to be vulnerable. I would love to hear your thoughts on honesty, openness and willingness.
Thanks for letting me chair.
Kind regards,
Karrie
Trusted Servants 04/2019
Trusted Servants
- 12 Step Volunteer Listkeeper (4/19-10/19): Sophie email
- Birthday Listkeeper (4/19-10/19): Ruth F. email
- Sponsor Listkeeper (4/19-10/19): Sherrie W. email
Trusted Servants who make up the Steering Committee:
- Business Meeting Chair (10/18-10/20): Joan B. email
- GSR (10/18-10/20): Kate M. email
- GVR (10/18-10/19): Barbara M. email
- Greeter (4/19-4/20): Sarah K. email
- Greeter (4/19-4/20): Louise H. email
- Listkeeper (4/19-4/20): Karen H. email
- Listkeeper Alternate* (4/19-4/21): Nancy C. email
- OIAA Rep (10/18-10/19): Lynn H. email and Kirsten V. email
- Secretary (10/18-10/19): Ruth F. email
- Temporary Mentor (4/18-4/19): Danna M. email
- Treasurer (10/17-10/19): Sue W. email
- Web Admin (4/19-4/20): Tanya C. email
- Webkeeper (4/19-4/20): Allison M. email
- Webkeeper Backup (4/19-4/20):
- Weekly Leader Listkeeper (4/19-4/20): Gigi email
Apr 21: More Will Be Revealed
More Will Be Revealed
“Our book is meant to be suggestive only. We realize we know only a little. God will constantly disclose more to you and to us.” (page 164, Alcoholics Anonymous)
My name is Nydia and I am an alcoholic. I am grateful I can be of service this week as the topic leader, thank you Grow.
More is revealed – slowly – in God’s time not mine. Every time I see those words in A Vision for You, I am reminded: be teachable Nydia. The Universe or Life continues to unfold. If I am teachable, then I can be open to the wonder of it.
In sobriety I am discovering more about myself, my family, who are my friends, what I like, what I am passionate about, where I feel safe and where I need to step out of my comfort zone. I am learning how I can be of service and a friend among friends.
I am also learning, to say “I don’t know”, recognise when I am lost and be open to seeing something from another point of view. It is a leap of faith: at times scary, at times fun and always adventurous.
What has been revealed to you?
Apr 14: Let Go…Let God
Let Go…Let God
Apr 07: There Are No Coincidences
There Are No Coincidences
Hello, my name is Allison M and I am a grateful recovering alcoholic.
How many times do we hear in sobriety that there are no coincidences? I’ve heard them called God shots. I have also heard that coincidences are God’s way of remaining anonymous.
In my drinking days, I had lots of grandiose plans and zero energy to set any of them in motion. I drifted along in life like a twig in a river. When something went well for me, I happily took credit for my hard work – it never occurred to me that a Power was setting events in motion that even I couldn’t mess up.
With a bit of time sober and the clarity it gives me, I now know that my HP is always at work, way ahead of me, with a wonderful plan that will unfold if I don’t fight it or second-guess. I often can’t see until later that a series of random happenings has culminated in just what I needed, like being introduced to the person who brought me to my first meeting (we were shopping in a consignment store with mutual friends), or holding the door for a stranger who shows up as a newcomer at a meeting that evening.
I remind myself often that I can only see my little corner of the puzzle while my HP has a birds-eye view. What appears to me to be a setback or a hardship may actually be putting me in the path of someone or something that becomes a significant turning point in my life better than anything I could think up on my own.
What “coincidences” have helped your recovery or brought you an unexpected blessing? Please share your experiences about There Are No Coincidences, or whatever is affecting your sobriety today. I look forward to hearing what you have to say!
0419 – Proposal 13: Weekly Topic Message
Proposal 13: Weekly Topic Leader Message
Add language about a On-call Meeting Leader List to Weekly Topic Leader Message and make additional edits to the Weekly Leader Listkeeper Responsibilites.
Recommended Language: “My name is [ Weekly Topic Leader Listkeeper Name ]. I am an alcoholic, and I’m also your
Weekly Leader Listkeeper. I am taking volunteers for the [ time period ].
Here is the calendar of our upcoming leaders scheduled to chair. A big GROW thank you to all
who are committed to growing in service.
Month: [ Month ]
[ Date, Name ] Step Meeting
[ Date, Name ]
[ Date, Name ]
[ Date, Name ]
Here is your opportunity to volunteer to lead a weekly meeting, choosing a topic that relates to
your individual experience, strength and hope or a topic you would like to hear about, that relates
to alcoholism recovery. The requirements necessary to lead a meeting are 90 days of continuous
sobriety and a member of GROW for more than 30 days.
[The April 2019 GROW business meeting designated the first meeting of the month to be a
STEP MEETING. Please limit your lead share to the step of the corresponding month.]
If you would like to volunteer, just hit reply and let me know which available date you would be
willing to lead. Here are the available dates:
[ Month, Day ] Step Meeting
[ Month, Day ]
[ Month, Day ]
[ Month, Day ]
[ Month, Day ]
We try to give thoughtful attention to those who would like to lead a meeting around their A. A.
anniversary. If the date requested is already filled, you will be offered another available date.
Around Wednesday or Thursday of the week before you’re set to chair, I’ll contact you and pass
on the meeting format. If, for some reason you cannot do the meeting on your selected
Sunday, please let me know as soon as possible so I can find a replacement leader.
I look forward to hearing from each and every one of you. The topic meeting is a great way
of saying “hi” and letting us all get to know you better. Thank you for your participation
and thank you for letting me be of service.
[ Name ]
Weekly Leader Listkeeper
P.S. As our membership is *growing*, we are getting duplicate names. When you respond
please include your name and the first initial of your last name.”
Rationale:
Summary of Comments on Proposal 13
No discussion
Results of Voting on Proposal 13
Passed 8 agree, 0 disagree
Group Conscience Decision:
Add recommended language to the Weekly Topic Leader Message.
0419 – Proposal 12: Monthly Step Meeting
Proposal 12: Monthly Step Meeting
- I propose that the current Step language pertinent to each month be inserted into the regular meeting format for the month indicated. It should be inserted at the start of the Lead section, and the Weekly Leader may add her lead immediately after that.
- I also propose that the Tradition should continue to be sent at the start of each month just as has been done.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 12
The discussion was a dialog about the language for the step topic and who would supply it. Here are the comments:
1. Question: Who will insert the language for the Step meeting for the corresponding month at the beginning of each month? The Weekly Lead or the Weekly Leader Listkeeper?
2. The Weekly Listkeeper will insert the language into to the format.
3. So if I understand correctly, the request for weekly leaders forms will need a paragraph about the first week being a step meeting. Then when the weekly leader list keeper sends the weekly reminder for the first week of the month she’s going to have to amend the letter to reflect the meeting is a step meeting? If that’s the case we should just approve another letter so she has it on hand 4. If we made it another form letter we would need 12 form letters, 1 for each month. I think the Weekly Listkeeper can insert the topic each month.
5. I support the proposal to insert the language we currently use for the relevant Step Meeting.
6. Thanks Amanda for clarifying that change to the weekly Listkeeper job description re leaving just Tradition as monthly.
7. With respect to all views, I’d suggest we leave it to the weekly Listkeeper to work out if she needs to pre-prepare additional form letters/drafts or if she’ll copy and paste for the relevant month. It feels as if this could be a case of trusting our Trusted Servants to carry out the role, and if needed formalising additional form letters at a future business meeting?
8. What has been shared here makes sense to me. Seems simpler.
9. Makes sense.
10. This proposal does not include/contain the language to be inserted into the regular meeting format, and I’m not sure what the “current Step language” means. Could you insert the recommended language within the proposal so we know what we’re voting on?
11. To answer Danna’s question, the current language refers to the lead that is used in the current monthly step meeting. It is in the form letters for the step/traditions meetings. Does that answer your question?
12. Every proposal that changes a job description, form letter, or any
“official” GROW document should also include a “Recommended Language” section so that it is very clear what we’re approving. Because this proposal does not explicitly contain the recommended language, and I’m not sure what I’m voting on …
I disagree (vote changed to agree)
Results of Voting on Proposal 12
Voting: Twelve (12) participants in favor, and no one voted against.
Group Conscience Decision:
The current Step language pertinent to each month will be inserted into the regular meeting format for the month indicated. It should be inserted at the start of the Lead section, and the Weekly Leader may add her lead immediately after that.
The Tradition will continue to be sent at the start of each month.
0419 – Proposal 11: Weekly Leader Reminder
Proposal 11: Weekly Leader Reminder Letter
Add form letter to GROW form letters page titled Weekly Leader Reminder Letter, to be sent to the upcoming leader on Wednesday.
Recommended Language:
“Dear :
I’m sending you a friendly reminder that you are scheduled to chair this upcoming Sunday. I’ll be attaching a clean copy of the updated meeting format to this email. Let me know if you have trouble opening it or copying it to an email. Please remember not to add any urls in your post!
**Please reply to this email to verify your availability to lead this Sunday. You must send your meeting lead email on Saturday night, no later than Sunday morning, to ensure that ladies in various time zones will receive the meeting on Sunday morning.
If, for some reason you cannot chair the meeting this Sunday, please let me know before Saturday so I can find a replacement leader.
*For a list of meeting topics that have been previously used, visit the following link on the GROW webpage. http://www.g-r-ow.com/members/topics/chrontopics.htm
Thank you for your service!
-Weekly Leader Listkeeper”
Rationale:
- This letter needs to be sent each Wednesday to ensure the assigned leader will be available for the upcoming Sunday meeting. There is no “official” form letter on GROW for this. Making this an “official” form letter would make sure the Listkeeper had an approved form letter to use each week, reflecting past business meeting decisions. Refer to the April 2012 business meeting decision below, where it was decided that the meeting be posted on Saturday, no later than Sunday morning.
- Weekly Meeting > Topic Postings (4/12)
Decision: We have consensus on this Proposal and it is APPROVED that we begin posting the meeting on Saturday, no later than Sunday morning. We will “revisit” this topic in our October 2012 Business Meeting to discuss possible modification of our website and literature to reflect this change.Proposal: Begin posting the meeting on Saturday, no later than Sunday morning, to ensure that ladies in various time zones will receive the meeting on Sunday.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 11
- I strongly disagree with this suggested language. We have been here before, as having meeting leads consistently “on time” has always been an issue. It’s inappropriate to require meeting leaders to post their leads on Saturday, as our meeting starts on Sunday. The group decided in past debates that we can suggest people post on Saturday but not require it. Also, “Sunday morning” is difficult because our members are in so many time zones. I would change the language as follows.
**Please reply to this email to verify your availability to lead this Sunday. You must can send your meeting lead email on Saturday night, no later than Sunday morning, to ensure that ladies in various time zones will receive the meeting on Sunday morning. I don’t think it’s reasonable to ask people to let the listkeeper know before Saturday if they can’t chair. This will not help with people who simply forget to post their leads (I have been guilty of this) or who have something come up at the last minute. The listkeeper has already asked them to confirm they will be there on Sunday. If they do not confirm, that’s a clear sign there may be a problem. If they do confirm, we have to trust that they’ll do it.Basically, this proposal is asking the meeting leads to solve what is an occasional problem for the Weekly Meeting Lead Listkeeper. I just don’t think it’s necessary. I would delete this sentence completely. If, for some reason you cannot chair the meeting this Sunday, please let me know before Saturday so I can find a replacement leader. - Sounds great.
- This letter is very good and I appreciate having it. Thanks to Amanda for taking her job to heart and creating this.
- Minority Opinion after the vote
- My only problem with this proposal is the following sentence: “If, for some reason you cannot chair the meeting this Sunday, please let me know before Saturday so I can find a replacement leader.” I would change my vote to “I agree” if the words “before Saturday” were deleted.
- I don’t think it’s reasonable to ask people to let the listkeeper know before Saturday if they can’t chair. What happens if the person doesn’t know until Saturday that they won’t be available? This will not help with people who simply forget to post their leads (I have been guilty of this) or who have something come up at the last minute. The listkeeper has already asked them to confirm they will be there on Sunday. If they do not confirm, that’s a clear sign there may be a problem. If they do confirm, we have to trust that they’ll do it.
- If the Weekly Leader Listkeeper maintains a list of women who will step in to lead a meeting when the scheduled person doesn’t post the meeting, she doesn’t need the advance notice to find a replacement lead.
- Basically, the language “before Saturday” is asking the meeting leads to solve what is an occasional problem for the Weekly Meeting Lead Listkeeper. I just don’t think it’s necessary. It won’t solve the problem, and it imposes an unnecessary requirement on the weekly lead.
- Again, the rationale behind this is to give the WLL a heads up IF POSSIBLE. There is no punishment or consequence if they can’t. This is a courtesy! I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask people to be courteous and let the WLL know ahead of time if they can’t Chair. If they don’t show or run late, that’s a separate issue. This is for people that know they have a conflict ahead of time.If things happen, they happen and we are more than flexible when life happens! This has been working so far when I sent this request to our chairs. The big question here is… does the language “before Saturday” help or hurt the group and the way it functions… or this an issue of people personally not wanting so many “guidelines”? This is about what helps our group function and get meetings posted on time for everyone.
- This happens so rarely that I don’t think it’s necessary to add another task to the Weekly Topic Leader’s responsibilities. As a group, I think that we can allow our members to think for themselves instead of being told what to do. We can’t legislate courtesy or good manners, or know in advance that we won’t be available on a particular Sunday. Also, let’s not forget that unlike f2f meetings that last for about 1-1/2 hours (someone had mentioned that they start on time) our meetings last for one week. This gives us plenty of time to receive and share on a Topic by either the Topic Leader or her replacement. My $.02 tonight.
- Part of the confusion that I see the possibility of, is double posting of meetings. If an overzealous , stickler for the rules weekly leader doesn’t see a meeting posted by the time required, then, in all fairness to her, she would go ahead and post a meeting, That is clearly unfair to the leader who has been waiting for 3 months to lead a meeting, if she should happen to run late of forget, for a moment. This has been an issue in the past, and we have survived with barely a few meetings posted as late as Monday. But its really not fair to give the lead every chance for their opportunity. My two cents.
- I see 8 am PST as a suggestion. I am not intending to hold anyone to this while I am WLL. As long as I know that someone is going to post that day, preferably that morning or midday US time, I am okay with that. It is when I do not hear back from the person signed up that I must find myself with a bit of extra work. Once the business meeting is concluded, I will send out the revised letter seeking backup leaders.
Results of Voting on Proposal 11
Pass 13 agree, 0 disagree
Group Conscience Decision:
Add recommended language to the Weekly Topic Leader Message.
0419 – Proposal 9: Weekly Leader Listkeeper
Proposal 9: Weekly Leader Listkeeper TS Responsibilities
Delete current descriptions and add proposed descriptions for Weekly Leader Listkeeper on the GROW trusted servant responsibilities page.
**** Delete the 8 current bullets below:
- At the end of each month, calls for topic volunteers to fill the 3rd unfilled month, using Weekly Leader Template approved by group conscience.
- Send the one-month schedule of meeting chair dates and corresponding Weekly Leaders to the group on a monthly basis (in addition to posting regular weekly reminders of the meeting topics)
- Schedules should be completed for no more than three months in advance.
- Post regular weekly reminders of the meeting topics and post the upcoming chairs.
- Two weeks prior to meeting date, confirm topic leader is still a GROW member.
- Provide weekly topic leader with clean copy of meeting format.
- Replace the topic leader if necessary through general announcement to the group.
- Maintain a list of those willing to lead a topic (chair a meeting) each Sunday, including email address.
*** Add the following 4 bullets for clarity:
- “At the beginning of each month, send the current month’s schedule of meeting chair dates and corresponding leaders to the group.”
- “At the beginning of each month, send the Weekly Topic Leader Message form letter for the 3rd unfilled month. Schedules should be completed no more than three months in advance.”
- “Send the Weekly Leader Letter to the upcoming leader on the previous Wednesday, reminding them of their scheduled meeting lead on the following Sunday. Attach a clean copy of the meeting format. Make sure they reply, verifying their availability to chair the upcoming meeting.”
- “Maintain a list of on-call meeting leaders that are willing to replace the Topic Leader, if the scheduled leader hasn’t responded to emails or has not posted a meeting by Sunday morning (8 AM PST)”
Rationale:
- The bullet descriptions concerning calling for volunteers and posting the meeting schedule need more clarity as to when to send each item, so I added “at the beginning of the month”. I have been doing this and it works well to send the call for volunteers and current month’s schedule at the beginning of the month.
- The bullet concerning posting regularly weekly reminders is a repeat and doesn’t need to be there.
- The bullet concerning confirming the member’s status two weeks before is not needed, because the list keeper contacts the assigned leader personally on the Wednesday before the meeting. This is an extra, unnecessary duty.
- The bullets concerning a list for weekly leaders and replacing the topic leader needs more clarity. This has been an unclear area and has caused some problems during my current term. I added a specific time to replace the topic leader, if a topic has not been posted on Sunday morning. Also, if we have a list of willing leaders, why make a general announcement to the group? I believe making a general announcement is embarrassing to the assigned leader and negates the point of having a list of willing leaders. (Refer to the business meeting decision on October 2011 about maintaining a back-up list of willing leaders).
Summary of Comments on Proposal 9
- It is so nice to have a nice clear list and procedure for MIA leaders. Again, my thanks!
- Thank you for simplifying the process here. This proposal offers effectiveness and manageability. I support this.
- Brings more clarity and definite timelines, I like it
- Thank you, Amanda. You’ve done a great job at revising this Job Description!
- Minority Opinion after the vote. I voted “I disagree” on this proposal because I cannot support the following bullet as written:
- “Maintain a list of on-call meeting leaders that are willing to replace the Topic Leader, if the scheduled leader hasn’t responded to emails or has not posted a meeting by Sunday morning (8 AM PST)”
- My problem with the bullet is the imposition of a time deadline on posting the Sunday meeting (“… by Sunday morning (8 AM PST)”). Our meetings begin on Sunday, but we have never decided as a group that they should begin no later than a specific time on Sunday. This bullet makes that decision for us. It is not appropriate to require our weekly meeting leaders to get their lead out by a certain time on Sunday, particularly when the business meeting has not made that decision.
- The deadline is stated for the Pacific Standard Time zone, meaning leaders will have to figure out what time that is in their time zone. This is further complicated by the fact that it refers to Standard Time rather than Daylight Savings Time. There will be large portions of the year in which the PST requirement doesn’t make sense.
- We have, as a group, debated the question of when a meeting should be posted many times. This one bullet in the proposal imposes a decision on Grow that the business meeting participants have not discussed. I would agree with the proposal if the parenthetical “(8 AM PST)” were deleted.
- There are several discussions to be had in this opinion. There needs to be three new proposals made I guess. I had them in separate proposals but was told to combine them because we only have a month for this meeting…
- Maintaining a list of on call leaders
- Posting the meeting late Saturday or early Sunday.
- Time frame for posting.
- Maintaining a list of on call leaders is already on the current job description for WLL. If there is a disagreement with this, it needs to be a separate proposal.
- Posting the meeting on Saturday evening or Sunday morning is a group conscience decision from 2012 that is not being followed through with. We would need a separate proposal to change this.
- As far as the additional time, it’s just a courtesy to have the meeting be available for everyone on Sunday morning. 8 AM PST is 11 AM EST and even later for those in Europe. How is that not acceptable? Any later in the day would not be morning anymore. I think this is reasonable. As I said before, face to face meetings have times to show up. No one has had any issue posting the meeting by 8 AM PST since I started testing it out the past few months. If people need more time, they ask and it’s totally fine. If there needs to be a separate proposal for this, I’ll be happy to make one.
Results of Voting on Proposal 9
Voting: Passed after second vote 8 agree, 1 disagree.
Group Conscience Decision:
We have consensus on this Proposal and it is APPROVED that we begin posting the meeting on Saturday, no later than Sunday morning. We will “revisit” this topic in our October 2012 Business Meeting to discuss possible modification of our website and literature to reflect this change.
Proposal: Begin posting the meeting on Saturday, no later than Sunday morning, to ensure that ladies in various time zones will receive the meeting on Sunday.
Mar 31: Don’t Take Yourself So Seriously
Don’t Take Yourself So Seriously
“A little humour is good for the soul-regardless of how old you may be”. Or how long you have been sober.
Mar 24: Dealing With Loss
Dealing With Loss
Hi beautiful GROWING women. My name is Alison B. and I am an alcoholic. Thank you so much for the birthday wishes this past week!
I had an interesting experience this morning. It is not exactly how I chose to begin my day. It went something like this. My home group is “Chicks with Chips”, and we have a Step Study on Thursday evening. Last Thursday I noticed I did not have my 12×12 Step Study book in my car in its usual spot when I arrived at my meeting. No big deal. I made a mental note to look for it when I got home. I forgot all about it until this morning. I recalled meeting my Sponsor a week ago to go over my Step 1. I had taken my books and notepad into the restaurant when I met with her. I was pretty sure I must have forgotten the bag of books at the restaurant. No big deal. I simply called the restaurant. Well, they did not have my bag of books.
Here is where things began to accelerate for me…….I began an earnest search of the house. Mostly my office, as that is where I would have left it. I checked my car twice. I began to get anxious. I simply could not find them anywhere. My former sponsor gave me that Step Study book 26 years ago. And my Big Book was almost as old. I had so many tidbits of wisdom from the women of AA in that little step book. I began to cry. I had lost so much wisdom. I went out to the shop to cry on my husband’s shoulder. He was sympathetic. He helped me look again.
We checked the car together, we looked in closets together. My tears subsided. I sat down at my desk and began to look for the silver lining. I realized I was beginning the 12 Steps again, in part to celebrate my 26 years of sobriety, but also because I felt a bit complacent with my program. As I had lost my books, I figured my Higher Power must want me to begin with new books. Why else would I have lost them? I grieved for my lost memory a bit too. Not just the ones I had written in the book, but my 63 year old mind just does not remember stuff like it used too. This has become a bit of a problem for me. Oh, I can still find my way home, lol, but I struggle with small stuff now on a regular basis. (Post-its have become my external brain. That and the “Notes” App in my phone!) I realized that I was grieving as much for my mostly short term memory loss as I was for the loss of my special AA books. At this point I paused.
I let go. I let go of the books and my sadness, and all of it. I chose to trust that God had the perfect plan for me. I would simply go purchase new books on Monday. That’s when it happened. My husband walks into my office for a second time. He reaches over beside me. And right there on the shelf were my books! (By now I was pretty sure that I must have been a little too attached.) I was also sure that God was right there with me the whole time. I had not had an occasion to cry like that in a long time. In fact, it has been a few years since I had felt such loss and the sadness that goes along with it. It was cathartic for me. It was all perfect. It was all part of a divine plan for me. Once again I am restored to sanity. I am grounded. I have a much better contact with my Higher Power right now than I did when I got up this morning.
I am losing my short term memory, ever so slowly. It is the natural course of this aging process. God has a plan for me. It will all work out perfectly. I have less vested in the outcome of my plans today. That is that. Tomorrow I will begin Step 2. If truth be told, I began Step 2 this morning. Lol In conclusion, it turns out I cannot ever “lose” the wisdom that I have acquired from years of Step Study meetings with AA women. It is apparently a part of my tapestry. There is magic in working the 12 Steps!
Blessings,
Alison B.
Mar 17: Fear and Courage
Fear and Courage
Welcome to this week’s meeting and congratulations to every awesome lady celebrating another day of sobriety.
Since joining AA I have learned a lot about how fear has driven so many of the bad decisions and behaviors I’ve made since my teen years – which is when my troubles started. In spite of growing up in a relatively happy home with two awesome parents in a lovely neighborhood in southern California, I had no confidence to cope with life’s challenges that hit during those years of puberty. In hindsight, I think I felt afraid most of the time, and unlike my siblings I didn’t manage this well.
My coping mechanisms were all destructive: I began with a few personal bad habits, then began to overeat to soothe myself which only compounded my anxieties and self-image as I grew larger. High school was a disaster, I sabotaged all prior success in school by hanging out with the bad kids, started taking drugs and drinking. By my early 20’s, I didn’t think much of myself and succumbed to having sex with any man that was interested. I could write a book about the awful things I did between the ages of 16 and 24, suffice it to say life wasn’t pretty.
I ‘cleaned up my act’ to some degree by the time I was in my late twenties, but until recently I did not understand the powerful emotion of fear and the impacts it has on me. When a fear comes up in my mind, I’m often too pre-occupied or busy to even notice, the master at burying that which I don’t want to deal with because it’s painful. Then my unhealthy ‘go to’ coping remedies take over (drinking, overeating, trying to control others, etc.). This has been a very destructive pattern for most of my life causing harm in all of my relationships and many bad decisions that are based in fear. The fear that people won’t like me, that conflict will come up if I say what I need to say, or do what I need to do, fear that others might not approve.
Thanks to the 12 steps, I don’t care any longer where this character defect stems from, I am just grateful now that I recognize it and have the tools to address it. This has made a huge difference in how I think and subsequently behave. Once I recognize and face a fear, I eventually muster up the courage to give it to God, which often times helps me to take action if needed. I might still feel afraid temporarily, but having the courage to move through the situation like a responsible adult brings a marvelous improvement in the quality of my life!
I look forward to hearing how each of you handles fear and experience courage to move through it.
Gratefully, Susan
Mar 10: Relationships in Recovery
Relationships in Recovery
Hello GROW!
It’s March in the desert and that means visitors. Next week one of the people coming down to enjoy the weather will be my dad.
I have not lived in my hometown for almost 25 years. For most of that time I spent vacations visiting my dad. And I resented it. I resented the fact that my dad had never come to visit me. I felt hurt by his lack of interest in spending time with me. When I got sober, I saw that I had a lot of expectations: in short, I wanted my dad to become the dad I wanted him to be.
Over time, I have stepped back. Today I only call when I am feeling spiritually centered. I try to accept him as he is. Most importantly, I am learning to approve of myself, instead of waiting for him to approve of me.
And last year my dad came to visit me for the first time.
I have time boundaries around our interactions and bring my HP along to help me release my expectations.I have learned to say “You could be right,” instead of arguing. Today, I use my interactions with Dad to focus on what is important to me: practicing tolerance and limit setting.
How have your relationships changed as you’ve changed in sobriety? What are some of the tools you use to adjust yourself to “what is”f?
Looking forward to hearing you share on this topic or whatever is going on in your Program this week. Thanks for allowing me to be of service!
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Kirsten
Mar 03: We admitted we were alcoholic and our lives had become unmanageable
We admitted we were alcoholic and our lives had become unmanageable
As always -I love looking up definitions. When I walked into AA, I came in with two kids, a marriage, a good job, I was and still am self employed. I hadn’t lost anything other than my self respect, my health, and my sanity. My daily mantra was ” Is this all there is” It took 6 months of therapy, after I stopped drinking to get me to see how unmanageable my life truly was. I am listing the synonyms below to help you identify with the word.
Synonyms of unmanageable
froward, headstrong, incontrollable, intractable, recalcitrant, refractory, uncontrollable, ungovernable, unruly, untoward, wayward, willful (or wilful)
Words related to unmanageable
bullheaded, contrary, difficult, hardheaded, incorrigible, intransigent, mulish, obdurate, obstinate, opinionated,perverse, pigheaded, self-willed, stiff, stiff-necked, stubborn, undisciplined, unpunished, uncontrolled, wild, boisterous, irrepressible, rambunctious, rowdy, disobedient, indocile, insubordinate, rebellious, misbehaving, naughty
(hmm now I thought those were mostly fun) Much to my chagrin, I still enjoy being boisterous, wild, rowdy and uncontrolled… well they say it’s progress. So I am also listing the replacements for unmanageability. These are the words I am working on including into my life, today.
Near Antonyms of unmanageable
docile, obedient, well-behaved, compliant, placable, pliable, submissive, yielding, accepting, persuadable, receptive, responsive, willing, reasonable, temperate, trainable
By replacing the former with the latter, I am learning that I can have the life I have always wanted. Which words resonate with you, and which ones are you working at replacing in your life? As always, If theres something you need to share, please do.
Thanks for the opportunity to be of service.
Laurie
Feb 24: Online AA
Online AA
My name is Nancy C and I am a very grateful alcoholic. It is an honor for me to Chair the GROW Meeting this week. It was February 17, 1997 that I first found online AA and my gratitude is eternal.
I sent a message to join the online group then got drunk and sent another message with just HELP in the Subject line. When I got up the next morning, there were messages from so many dear sober ladies telling me their stories and encouraging me to join them in sober living.
At first, I thought that this was my answer, not going to meetings in my town but instead doing my sober journey online. There were many ladies who pointed out that I needed to get to face-to-face meetings so people could look me in the eye and give me real hugs. It took me 2 weeks but I finally attended my first meeting on a Sunday morning and another one that night. Attended 90 meetings in 90 days and this gave me a great start on my sober journey. Met so many wonderful, helpful people who have been an important part of my life the past 22 years.
I still stayed in the online group and joined GROW when it started and found it so helpful to have a meeting and sharing available 24/7. On sleepless nights, I would get online and straighten out my stinking thinking! For four years, I was so fortunate to meet face-to-face many members of the online group at a retreat in Georgia. Awesome memories from those gatherings.
I had a sponsor here in my town who helped me immensely and had an online sponsor who I became very close to and would visit each year for my AA Birthday. She sadly passed away 2 1/2 years ago, just 5 weeks after my husband of 51 years suddenly passed away.
I have always had a very special connection to online AA and was privileged to volunteer at the OIAA (Online Intergroup Alcoholics Anonymous)Hospitality Suite at the 70th International AA Conference in Toronto ON Canada in 2005. It was fun to introduce my local AA friends to my online friends!
Both face-to-face AA and online AA mean the world to me but online will always have a special place in my heart. I would love to hear from you women this week what your experiences with online AA have been or whatever you need to share about with the group.
Thank you for the opportunity to Chair this week,
Nancy C
Feb 17: God Could and Would If He Were Sought
God Could and Would If He Were Sought
GOD COULD AND WOULD IF HE WERE SOUGHT from HOW IT WORKS
It has been said that there are no atheists in foxholes. As so many of us know, we sought a foxhole for refuge from alcoholism. It brought us to our knees to ask for help from a Higher Power, even if we didn’t have or understand one. And we were given the help we sought whether or not it seemed we deserved it. When we cleared up, of course, many of us began to question the existence of a Higher Power. Isn’t that just like us!
Having sought a foxhole from raging emotions recently, I found myself unable to identify a way out. While the wonderful women of GROW reached out to me, I was stuck in hurt, fear and hopelessness. My sponsor, a very spiritual woman, immediately noticed I was not seeking my Higher Power. She has a joyful spirituality, even after a lot of pain in her life and does not lack for a sense of humor. We even got to a point of her asking if I had been ‘sought-ing’ today (if He were sought…you got it). She also pointed out that after please should come thank you.
My relationship with a Higher Power has been touch and go throughout the years. Blame it on upbringing, blame it on me. However, in these last 2 years, we seem to have become much closer. I am starting to experience a tangible feel of His presence. Of course, it is I who is moving closer to Him. I doubt He ever moved. It seems always to take a lot to get my attention. I can only say that I hope that my attentiveness grows. Then it may not take such prolonged painful events to get me to turn to the God of my understanding.
There is a particular point in this suggestion from the Big Book. In order to receive help, we must keep an open dialog with our Higher Power. For me, there has been a lot of magical thinking around a Higher Power. For example, I thought, He will just know what I want–I don’t have to ask. The only action I have to take is to ask. And it is not my place to be guiding our Higher Power on how to get the job done! Someone wryly commented that If you insist on what you want, you may lose what you need. That is worthy of thought. AA is a simple program for complicated people.
I only have to say Please Help. I have received blessings and answers to my prayers with so little effort. While our prayers most often are on behalf of others, there is a time that I must declare my powerlessness and humility and go directly to my Higher Power for help for myself. He never disappoints! Oh sure, I may not be given what I think should get, but I always get what I need. From time to time I look at what I received when I prayed and see how spot-on the answer was. So often it turns out not to be what I thought I needed. This really is How It Works.
Barbara
Feb 10: Life On Life’s Terms
Life On Life’s Terms
We hear the phrase, :”Life on life’s terms” often in our Program. I look at it this way: Every day life is handed to me as my Higher Power directs it to be. I often say to my sponsees: “Life happens — -It’s how I respond to it that is important”!
I also describe it this way: “BORN HERE – – -TIC, TIC, TIC, TIC, TIC, TIC, TIC, TIC, TIC, AND DIE HERE”! I can’t go back one tic or go forward one time. I am in THIS TIC – – -right here, right now! Nowwwwwwwwwwwwww, that tic is over!!! I often look down at my feet to remind myself where I am: “Ohhhh — -Here I am!”
I find each tic is a choice! Today I feel I have the responsibility to not only carry the message but also to carry it on in a positive manner! Imagine it the entire world felt this way – – -there would be no wars!
It’s an privilege to present our topic for the week. I look forward on your take on this subject,
Susanne Murphys, CA 8/17/91
Feb 03: Gifts of Sobriety
Gifts of Sobriety
Hello to all in this fantastic group and thank you for helping to keep us connected in sober cyber space.
I’ve been thinking a lot about gifts of sobriety as I approach my 7 year anniversary on Monday this week.
Partly this is because the further away from the beginning I stay sober, it can be easy to take things for granted and lose gratitude which has been me recently.
Over winter, I’ve been in the doldrums. In the summer last year I got myself into a fantastic routine of getting up early before the rest of my family, and my work and starting the day with silence prayers, meditation and yoga. I was motoring along great feeling a little complacent and smug perhaps thinking this would last for ever…
But further into a busy academic year, I overdid the yoga, and in a fit of resentment towards someone who was messing around at the gym not using the machines ( didn’t she know I had a busy job , kids to feed at home, me me me stuff) when I rushed and injured my shoulder. My impatience and self importance rearing it’s ugly head.
Roll on December and busy busy work as a musician and teacher whilst still in severe pain I got a nasty chest infection very physically and mentally run down . Upshot was by January ,3 months in, and a stone heavier, I was swerving way way off routine and feeling pretty sorry for myself. (I have a tendency to over do it and pay for it later!!)
Needless to say although I think I know my programme ,and usually think I know when I’m off balance, it’s incredibly easy to veer off in the wrong direction. Thankfully in late Jan early Feb I’m slowly slowly finding my way back to health and mental sobriety but it’s taken a while.
The important reminder for me is that in the dark days of “poor me ” I completely lost sight of ” but you’re still sober” and any gratitude to the tools I’ve been given.
Now I’m back to a daily morning and evening routine and recording my gratitude. And it’s so true that gratitude changes attitude. But I’m trying to remember my perfection- ism and say easy does it and what I can fit in is good enough.
So this essentially is a long way round to saying I’m really keen to recalibrate and reflect on the gifts of sobriety which I’d somehow forgotten having overdone it big time.
What are the immediate gifts of sobriety that spring to mind? Here are mine.
The biggest is peace of mind – losing the daily angst, self flagellation and hatred, and knowing if that inner dialogue starts I’m off kilter and need to re-set.
Another gift is self awareness around my “isms”. Perfectionism and being impatient with myself and others still loom large but generally I have a strategy and if I don’t I have a front row set of friends who can tell me.
I love that old pleasures and interests have returned. The things I loved before the drinking years. A renewed interest in theatre and my music. I’ve now joined a stunning choir here in Oxford UK, which just brings me huge amounts of joy.
I love reading and I’m back to enjoying historical novels. All these things were lost to me in the years of drink. I couldn’t sit through a play if I’d had a drink without being restless irritable and discontent and I used to read and re read chapters in books as I’d not be focussed and forget what I’d read the night before. I’d decided all my drinking friends who were musicians just made it worse and I had so many drunken nights with them I’d kind of lost connection to music.
New pastimes also have been gifts – namely Mindfulness and Pilates/ yoga . A different gift of desperation – a rock bottom of a different type in 2014 opened me up to the huge benefits of these practices to keep in my sobriety tool kit.
Enjoying what is is another big gift- simple things such as smelling the grass as the seasons change, just being attuned and alert to the world around me. Not having smoked so many cigarettes or drunk so many wines it didn’t make any difference weather it was October or February.
Another gift is a better – generally lol – way of dealing with being acutely sensitive, having a quick temper and and needing now to reflect not react. Mostly!!!
Twice this week someone has said something to me where I’ve felt hurt and instantly stung. But that all too quick surge of rising anger in my stomach was replaced by pause, hand it over, detach, ” it’s not about you” , writing it out – which I’ve discovered helps loads- and getting the adult part of my head to talk down the fearful child reactive bit.
The gift of 24 hours helps me daily. Being able to start again the next or even same day better again having not dealt with things well. Reflecting re- sizing and re addressing things and being in better mental shape to be around others – be it my children, my students or family, friends in and out of the fellowship.
omeone once told me another brilliant gift from A.A. is you can bring your children up with the twelve steps. It’s a way of living for everyone in the family. As loving and kind as my own parents were and still are I don’t think they or I knew many strategies for dealing with life and other people when things go ” not according to plan”. I’m so aware that I can help me and my kids ( one of whom has all the isms that I do) cope better.
I’m also aware how fortunate I am that my kids can’t remember me as a drunk mum.
There’s so much else I could say about gifts I have received in this last seven years, amazing women I’ve met in the fellowship, and so so much more, but genuinely I’m really keen to hear from others in this amazing group –
What had sobriety given you in terms of gifts? and which things still trip you up or do you need reminding of?
My blessings to all of you for a wonderful 24 hours and thank you for all your wonderful guidance as part of my sobriety tool kit.
Ellie
Jan 20: Words to Live By
Words to Live By
For our topic today I am using a reading from A Day at a Time, Words to Live By – A Hazelden meditation book.
“Have I ever stopped to think that the impulse to “blow off steam” and say something unkind or even vicious will, if followed through, hurt me far more seriously than the person to whom the insult is directed? I must try constantly to quiet my mind before I act with impatience or hostility for my mind can be-in a very real way-an enemy as great as any I’ve ever known. Will I look before I leap, think before I speak-and try to avoid self-will to the greatest extent possible?”
When I first got sober and had my profound spiritual experience, I did everything more slowly. I thought over every comment, every word, before they left my mouth. I even meditated on what God’s will would be for each and every action. As years went by I became more accustomed to this way of thinking and acting as it had became 2nd nature (this was told to me by my sponsor because I was worried I did not process the same as in the beginning).
I seem now to have lost some of this ability. It may due to long term sobriety and my complacency with it, I am not sure. I am not as bad as I was during my using days but would like to have that God consciousness again. I want to slow down more, think about what I am going to say more and stop being as judgemental as I have become. I have acted more impatiently on occasions of losing my temper or becoming frustrated. This has truly bothered me and I am embarrassed over these incidents. I have a new sponsor and hope our work together will put me back into my God conscious state of mind.
Please share if you have had any issues with this or about anything you need to talk about today.
Hugs, Lynn H. DOS 9/30/96
Jan 13: Step One
Step One
It is January, and many women have already shared on Step One. However, in our October business meeting, we considered dedicating one week of each month to the corresponding step. We will discuss this again in April. I’d love to hear what you think about dedicating one meeting each month to the corresponding step.
It’s January, so Step One is on the table. I never doubted that I was an alcoholic. I was compulsively drawn to anything that took my feelings away long before I ever tasted alcohol. When I finally did have my first drink, I got drunk. I loved it. It made me sociable and sexy. I was able to talk to people. I could dance better. I could play pool (between the second and third drink). I never had one or two drinks. I always got drunk. That was the goal. So, when I got to AA, my powerlessness over mind-altering substances was not an issue.
The unmanageability of my life was. For a very long time, I was high-functioning despite my dependence on booze, pot, pills, food. I didn’t miss work. It was my punishment for getting so drunk the night before. I got promotions and raises. My friends were all partiers, too, so no one noticed how much I drank. For many years, I was able to fake it through life. Never mind two failed marriages, childlessness, aimlessness. I somehow made it look okay. That went on for over 30 years before it all began to catch up with me.
I’d already tried AA once – to get my husband off my back. I wasn’t sincere. I still wanted to drink, and I did. I went to meetings every day for three years, and I drank every day, too. I pretended to be part of AA, but I had unspoken contempt for people who could do what I could not. After three years of this, I got to treatment and managed 15 months without a drink (although I cheated with Nyquil). When I relapsed, I swore I’d never go back to AA. Little did I know my drinking would bring me back.
A five-year relapse brought me to my knees. My life got very unmanageable. The promotions, awards, and raises had long since ended. I didn’t party with others anymore. I drank alone in front of the TV. I had to check the bath towels to know if I’d bathed the night before and check the kitchen sick to know if I’d eaten. I drank and drove often. Thank God I never killed anyone. I couldn’t go more than one day without drinking. I used to joke that if I could make it a week, I could make years. That turned out to be true.
Finally, I married a man I’d never had a date with who didn’t speak much English. He wanted a green card and my money. He got both. I was delusional. I was doing my part to help the Third World. When asked why I married him, I told them I didn’t have anything better to do at the time. That’s how much I valued myself. After three months of pretend marriage and a couple of attempts on his life, God showed me what I had become – a foul-mouthed fire-breathing, hateful, raging drunk woman. I couldn’t be that woman anymore. It was time to go back to AA.
I was terrified I’d go through another three years of meetings and drinking. I was broken and hopeless. I didn’t believe AA would work for me, but I’d run out of options. It was all that was left. So, I went, and I listened, and I cried. This time, I wasn’t pretending. I was desperate. I wanted what you had but had no hope of getting it. Even so, I did what people suggested. Why not? Nothing I’d done on my own had helped. I was finally willing to do Step One with all my heart.
That was over 22 years ago. I didn’t have to go through that feared three years. When I left my first meeting, the compulsion to drink was gone. The obsession was not, but I finally had a choice. I was one of the “slowly” variety. It took years for me to feel some hope. I cried regularly in meetings for at least the first two years. It took a year to get the Peruvian out of my house and life. Everything was a struggle. In my first year, I lost my beloved cat, and then I lost my best friend to breast cancer. But I didn’t drink.
It wasn’t easy. But it was simple. AA gave me the Steps and a sponsor to help me work them. My sponsor ‘tricked’ me into service positions, so I began to feel like a part of AA. The online community, you women, kept me sober even when I wasn’t sane. I got to meet some of you personally, a true blessing of the program. The program gave me written instructions in the Big Book and many people who had been there to show me the way. I think I was maybe five years sober when I realized the promises were coming true even for me.
I can have it all again. All I have to do is pick up a drink. There is no doubt in my mind that I would not be able to stop again. That’s what I think of whenever I think about having “just one” drink. I never had just one. I am sure I would die an alcoholic death. But what I am more afraid of is living an alcoholic life. So, every time I think of picking up, I do Step One all over again. I play the tape all the way through. I know where it ends. No need to experiment or do more research.
I invite you to share your story with us this week. What brought you to AA? What keeps you here?
Thank you for letting me share, danna
Jan 06: From Page 62 of the book, Alcoholics Anonymous
From Page 62 of the book, Alcoholics Anonymous
“This is the how and why of it. First of all, we had to quit playing God. It didn’t work. Next, we decided that hereafter in this drama of life, God was going to be our Director. He is the Principal; we are His agents. He is the Father, and we are His children. Most good ideas are simple, and this concept was the keystone of the new and triumphant arch through which we passed to freedom.”
Hi! I’m Julie and still an alcoholic. I was reminded of this bit in another meeting and wanted to make it the topic and share in this meeting.
“Most good ideas are simple.” Oh, how I love that line. The simplicity of this program is such a beautiful thing. Simple but not easy.
For the longest time, I played God. I thought I was in charge of my life. I had to run the show. I couldn’t ask for help. Even though I had a little bit of religious education but lacked trust and faith.
I felt let down again and again by my parents. I watched them try to do it all and act like martyrs in the process. I guess that’s what was ingrained in me.
Do it yourself. You won’t be able to do it perfectly. So quit trying. Maybe just moan and complain. Don’t ask for help. Repeat and repeat.
It’s so awesome to have come to believe in a power greater than myself. I am no longer alone. I have faith in my God. I trust my God. It was a simple suggestion from my sponsor to ask for help in the morning and say thank you at night.
Overtime I grew in my recovery and spiritually. I came to believe. I passed that arch and it’s been such an amazing journey.
Sobriety has given me so much (and taken away as much, thank God.)
Following the how and the why of it… I’m grateful. I’ll keep coming back.
Please share on this topic or anything that might be on your mind.
Julie K, 5/17/12
Dec 30: Becoming More Efficient
Becoming More Efficient
This stood out to me last week in my home group Big Book Study:
“We constantly remind ourselves we are no longer running the show, humbly saying to ourselves many times each day “Thy will be done.” We are then in much less danger of excitement, fear, anger, worry, self-pity, or foolish decisions. We become much more efficient. We do not tire so easily, for we are not burning up energy foolishly as we did when we were trying to arrange life to suit ourselves.” pg 87-88 Big Book
What I really identified with was in much less danger of excitement…part.
When I was still drinking and thinking about a life of not drinking, I always thought “How boring! What do those people do?!? What do they look forward to??” I needed that “excited” feeling I got when I thought about having my first drink and what ever else was to follow.
When God got me sober in 2014, I was finally able to comprehend that I could actually live without drinking….that there were other things to do and get “excited” about. But, that isn’t a necessarily a good thing for me. I basically transferred my excitement about drinking into other equally unhealthy actions and behaviors. If there was nothing going on I could conjurer up ‘excitement” that my relentless mind fed me through thoughts. This new sober addiction to excitement, or I guess it was always there, would always result in havoc, drama and chaos in my life and in my home.
Did I know that at the time…no. Did I know that I was still in bondage to the drug of dopamine, adrenaline and cortisol that my body produces through drama and fear-no. Did I know that if I am obsessing over someone, trying to control them, fix them (which is playing God); that this creates strife, nervous energy, unrest, discomfort and dis-ease that is infectious and destructive for others-no.
When I went through the work again, I saw that AGAIN, I was the problem-UGH! I was a controlling, frighten, chaos junkie…even though I couldn’t see it because it’s easier to blame them instead. Excitement is dangerous for me. Either the thing that I am getting excited about will not meet my expectations and I will be disappointed, or I would create a resentment toward the person who got me excited and did not meet my huge expectations.
I clearly see when and how this started. When I was a young girl my perceptions and conceptions were just starting to form. My mom (not blaming her-at all, I just needed to understand why and where this started so that I wouldn’t repeat it) would say stuff like “Honey are you excited about this or that” and she would get excited….
I don’t think its natural to get excited over food or whatever my mom wanted me to get excited over. I just think she wanted to see me happy but instead what she was doing was feeding my dis-ease. When her excitement didn’t live up to my expectations I was disappointed and honestly pissed at her for building it up! LOL Then she would get pissed at me a say “why are you never satisfied!!” My brain wasn’t developed enough or equip to handle such “excitement”. Not to mention not being grounded in God or reality.
I know I have told this story to sponsees, or perhaps shared it in the group, but it sums up my life into my mid 20’s….
It was the night before my 7th or 8th birthday and I was about to take a shower and mom said…”when you get out I have a surprise for you!!!!” She would do a little dance and sing a bit just getting me all that more excited ( I now do this with my dogs, which makes them overly excited..which then makes me anxious even though I started it…lol.. I am working on not doing) So while I am in the shower my 7 year old mind is building this “surprise” into a huge event! I truly thought that I would get out of the shower and Chucky Cheese would be in the living room with all his friends to greet me and wish me a happy birthday! I had convinced myself of this reality.
SO, when I got out of the shower and saw the new Strawberry Shortcake pj’s laying there, that THAT was my surprise…I was livid!!! LOLOLOLOL! I wasn’t the type to hold back my disappointment and fury! I let her KNOW how disappointed I was and through a fit!! She then would say that I was crazy just like my dad and a spoiled brat…and so it goes. I wasn’t spoiled (just alcoholic) and she wasn’t necessarily doing anything wrong.
Most children don’t build stuff up in their heads the way I did… but I have a alcoholic brain so excitement is dangerous for me and my family. I know she picked up on my constant state of sadness as a child and that she was just trying to make me happy-instead it just helped to create a unsatisfied monster and more strife between us because of her reaction to my outbursts. I wasn’t a happy go lucky child-I was intense and worried, sad and nervous, irritable, restless and discontent….so excitement was just an accelerator.
Being disconnected from God in a unstable environment is when I created my maladjusted coping mechanisms to “get through” life. The same child like mind and defects that resulted from these maladjusted skills and thought forms, followed me into my teens and early adulthood. It took longer to grow out of I think because of my drinking and still being disconnected from God.
Now that I am reconnected to my Creator, not drinking, and aware of my defects, I don’t need “excitement” because I am content…on most days. It still ignites when I am in some sort of obsession, usually on Brian, setting him up to fail me because I am in some sort of fear…
So I call my sponsor, reach out to sponsees or newcomer, do some inventory, make some prayer, and I get grounded back into reality.
I am less likely to be drained and to drain others with my excitement when I am spiritually fit. When I am and grounded in my Faith and AA, I am way more efficient in my relationships, in sponsoring and my daily life.
Questions to group, pick one or all:
Where have you seen the dangerous and self destructive side effects of excitement in or out of sobriety? Do you tend to build things up, just to be disappointed? What patterns have you noticed that lead to self sabotaging? Please also share on how you stay spiritually fit and efficient and what measures you take when you see yourself slipping into excitement, fear, anger, worry, self-pity, or a foolish decision….
Thank you for the opportunity to Chair today!
Hilarie
Dec 23: Opportunity to be of Service
Opportunity to be of Service
The timing of this opportunity to be of service couldn’t come at a better time because it’s also a very challenging one in my recovery. Funny how things can work out that way.
I have to be very honest with you all. I have been experiencing the pitfalls of longer term sobriety and have felt like a hypocrite. Intellectually, I know what the right things are to do; meetings, sponsorship, working with a sponsor and others, service, prayer, meditation and more.
Over time I have become lost and distant from f2f meetings. The tools of the program have been neglected including my connection with my Higher Power.
I have felt as though I have been in trouble and not understanding what’s going on.
Finally, in a counseling session, I realized all of the changes and losses that there’s been for me in my AA community. A number of key people who were a big part of my recovery here in VT have moved away including my sponsor. There have been others who’ve left for other reasons, and then there have been deaths of a couple of old timers whose absence is keenly felt.
I am fortunate in that my husband is also in recovery. He has his program and I have mine. He doesn’t nag me or try to tell me what to do but, he’s always there if I need him. I asked him where to start humbly realizing I needed help. He is a huge example of someone who talks the talk and walks the walk.
He suggested I go back to the basics. So, to start I have been getting on my knees in the am. I have been reading “How It Works” in the Big Book, and meditating for short periods of time. More action is needed.
I am so grateful because this is our sober weekend getaway. Every Christmas for the last few years we are fortunate to be able to go to E. Dorset, VT to Bill Wilson’s Inn. There we are submerged in AA. Just the surroundings alone bring me comfort and a feeling of serenity and peace.
There are meetings from tonight, into tomorrow and then Sun am that we attend. It’ like a shot of AA in the heart to help me move forward. I can’t afford to keep sliding back or to stay stuck in place.
I know that I can’t stay sober alone and isolated. I have to take responsibility and do whatever it takes to rebuild a community of women in f2f meetings, find a new sponsor locally, continually stay in contact with my Higher Power and remember the tools.
I don’t want to drink today but, I truly understand that our disease is insidious and always there if we neglect our program of recovery.
I feel as though I have rambled on but hope that there are those of you who can relate to what I have shared in some way. If you have any ESH that you would like to share with me privately please send to serenity9918@gmail.com. I would love to hear from you. Otherwise, as always, I look forward to your shares.
Merry X-mas and Happy New Year.
Love, Ruth F. DOS: 2/14/99
Dec 16: Christmas, and gratitude versus expectations/rights
Christmas, and gratitude versus expectations/rights
I rarely drank over Christmas when I was a drinking alcoholic. Only once and that was a horrible time, needless to say. I made myself and my family miserable. I was a binge drinker so staying away from alcohol over the holidays wasn’t difficult for me, as I had grown up with fabulous memories of Christmas as a child, and then into my adult drinking life. It was a magical time of year– I’d whizz through the house until it was sparkling clean, every corner, don’t you know.. presents wrapped, visits made, and all very much centred around our son. It seemed like Christmas was the magical oasis in a year where the other 360 or so days were full of pain and chaos as a result of my alcoholism. Even when my husband and I split up {I got sober a year or so after we split up), it was still good, as my son would spend Christmas Day with his dad and Boxing Day became another Christmas Day for him with me. The spiritual significance of Christmas I felt to some extent too.
I celebrated 36 years of sobriety just last Tuesday. I’m so very grateful for that. I got sober upon turning 30 years of age, two weeks before Christmas… And I look forward to the season and celebrations every year since. That’s apart from the Christmas many years ago now when my young nephew was killed in a car crash. Christmas didn’t happen. But ever after, he became part of what made Christmas special. His memory very much is part of it in a good way.
The past two Christmases have not been so good– one involved an early stage breast cancer diagnosis the week before Christmas (cancer-free now and healthy). And last year, I spent Christmas alone (mostly by choice). Now, I normally live quite a social and busy life but I deeply value my time spent alone so I thought being alone at Christmas would be okay for me– it wasn’t! Maybe another year it might have been but there’d been a death in Oct (my ex) and then an ex-in law took her own life as well just three weeks later. Both my sons were affected deeply by all of this.. and for various reasons we couldn’t spend Christmas together (one lives in Peru, the other had to work).
Being alone over the holidays can be the most peaceful for some of you– you have shared that with me. And I thought that I would handle it well and actually enjoy relaxing and not having to be running around looking after others. But I drifted into self pity, resentment and, yes, sadness. I found out that me alone at Christmas didn’t work — not that year anyway–so this year I’d thought about helping out at a homeless shelter or somewhere like that but as it turns out I won’t be.
This year my son will be coming over again and we’re both very much looking forward to that. On Monday my grandson will be coming up for a few days. I’m excited about seeing both of them (haven’t since August). But I also know that as an alcoholic I can build pictures in my mind of how it should be . . .! Yes, expectations. And when I expect things to be a certain way, I often get a rude awakening!
If I stay grateful each 24-hr period I am given, living in the day and doing the next right thing, doing what I can to prepare but handing over the results to my Higher Power, then I’m on a winner! I can remain serene, and know that God is in charge of the whole caboodle. A few lines from Acceptance is the Answer in our Big Book tell me about expectations, and also ‘rights’. How many times did this scenario run through my head…. ‘but I deserve better than this… surely at my time in sobriety I should not be experiencing them not doing as I would like them to…’ LOL … :
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations. The higher my expectations of[ …. ] other people, the lower is my serenity. I can watch my serenity level rise when I discard my expectations. But then my “rights” try to move in, and they too can force my serenity level down. I have to discard my “rights,” as well as my expectations, by asking myself, How important is it, really? How important is it compared to my serenity, my emotional sobriety? And when I place more value on my serenity and sobriety than on anything else, I can maintain them at a higher level–at least for the time being. Acceptance is the key to my relationship with God today. I never just sit and do nothing while waiting for Him to tell me what to do. Rather, I do whatever is in front of me to be done, and I leave the results up to Him; however it turns out, that’s God’s will for me. I must keep my magic magnifying mind on my acceptance and off my expectations, for my serenity is directly proportional to my level of acceptance.
I realise that some of you reading this may not celebrate Christmas. Please share on expectations / gratitude about any day, holiday season or not. Do you have another holiday / season which figures big for you? And does the season impact on you whether you celebrate it or not?
Do you spend Christmas alone or with others? What are your suggestions, things that work for you, that you might pass on to others?
When I live in gratitude, I experience a peace that passes all understanding… no matter what is going on in my life. Share your gratitude list if you like!
Love and hugs, Louise
Dec 09: Decisions in Sobriety
Decisions in Sobriety
When I was drinking and well into my early sobriety I was terrible with making decisions. I would generally either make impulsive decisions that would turn out to be disasters (i.e marriages, relationships, geographics, spending impulsively, quitting jobs I really needed) or I would be so indecisive to where I could not make a decision. I had neither wisdom, God, or sobriety to help me. I was running on self-will run riot. I did not pause or take time to think.
Our Big Book says to pause when agitated. (Page 87, concerning morning meditation).
I was a very immature 47 year old when I got sober and kids/immature people do not make the best decisions.
What changed? The program and steps of course.
I ask God for help with my life and for his will for my life. I have more confidence in myself and think I am a capable person now. Sometimes my decision is just to do the next right thing.
I try to have lots of gratitude for basic things like my home, my job, food. I try to “play the tape all the way through” so I can see future consequences of a possible bad decision. I try to think of others instead of just myself, tall order for this selfish alcoholic. I pray for extra help through the bad situations. I use “restraint of pen and tongue.”I don’t always have to chime in or say something. Life is still progress and not perfection but I feel like a lady now as opposed to the drunk I used to be.
I just love page 86-87 “On awakening…”in the Big Book which tells us how to handle our daily decisions with God. It even says God gave us brains to use.
Thanks so much for letting me share.
Dec 02: Suggestions
Suggestions
Hi! I’m Julie and a grateful alcoholic. Happy to be of service at the last minute this week.
For a topic I would like to suggest the suggestions!
“Make no requests in prayer for yourself only.
Never pray for your own selfish ends.
Select and memorize a few set prayers that emphasize the principles of the Steps.
Ask a priest, minister or rabbi about helpful books and prayers that emphasize the principles of the Steps.
Be quick to see where religious people are right.
Make use of what religious people have to offer. (p. 87)”
I thought when I came in that I had a relationship with God and I prayed for others.
What I realized is that I was praying more so for my own selfish needs.
I learned that praying, really praying, meant I had to learn how to. Listen to others. Follow suggestions on how to connect with the God of my understanding. Finally I had to put others before myself. Trust and have faith. I had to learn about God and aligning my will with Gods. Not the other way around.
Please share on this topic or anything that may be on your mind.
Julie K, 5/17/12
Nov 25: Tried & Tested Prayers
Tried & Tested Prayers
When I was first attending AA and beginning to put sober days together I was surprised when it was suggested that I try praying.
I had no reference point for prayer other than in the church of my childhood.
I quickly learned the Serenity Prayer to say at the end of meetings but only because I wanted to fit in. I was saying it by rote but with no meaning.
Then someone suggested I say thank you at the end of each day. Thank you for the roof over my head, the food in my belly, the clothes on my back. And to say it to whatever I thought may or may not be there. I began following this suggestion and found I was slept better! I didn’t think of this as a prayer back then but I do now.
Then I met the lady who would become my sponsor for the next 5 years of my sobriety. She talked about waking up in the morning and talking to god. She told me how she would sit at the edge of her bed and open her arms. I had no idea! I thought prayer was on one’s knees with hands together.
Today I’m open to learning from anyone and anywhere, ideas on ways to pray and words to say, ways to develop my conscious contact with the god of my understanding.
P.104-105 Step 11 from Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions (https://www.aa.org/assets/en_US/en_step11.pdf) says…
“In AA we have found that the actual good results of prayer are beyond question…
All those who have persisted have found strength not ordinarily their own.
They have found wisdom beyond their usual capability.
And they have increasingly found a peace of mind which can stand firm in the face of difficult circumstances.”
Are there results you’ve had from praying? Do any of these experiences of wisdom or peace or strength resonate?
Are there any prayers or words that have been particularly helpful? Have you struggled with willingness to pray? Have you doubted prayer could work for you?
I went through one of the toughest things in my life and in my sobriety this year. I was given a suggestion to repeatedly pray just 3 lines of the St Francis / Step 11 Prayer.
It changed my experience of what was happening, it gave me a peace that could only have come from something beyond human, it enabled me to put others first but still look after myself, it opened my eyes and heart to the humanity in someone I’d had a difficult relationship with and gave me the strength to be of use to them.
The lines were these…
God, grant that I may seek rather to comfort than to be comforted;
to understand, than to be understood;
to love, than to be loved.
At another incredibly tough time, a few years ago, I was shown how to pray by slowing down the words to say a single word at a time, with a big pause between each word, giving my mind time to feel the word.
I used to use this as a meditation, standing at my garden door, rocking my poorly baby, sometimes an hour at a time until he slept. I felt so alone and so helpless but praying in this way connected me at such a deep level with god, I felt safe and held and that I was being given the strength to get well myself and to be there for my baby.
It gave me such comfort in such a dark time that I knew no matter what came, god would be there for me.
At times of unwillingness to pray I find writing to god really helpful, just getting all my thoughts out.
I am so grateful to AA for showing me how to find a power greater than myself and for continuing to show me how to connect and hear the guidance I need to live a sober, useful, content life. At times it’s not necessarily easy, but it’s easier than drinking!
Thank you for letting me be of service.
The meeting is open for sharing, on the topic of Tried & Tested Prayers or for anything recovery related that you need or want to share.
In love and fellowship, Sophie.
Nov 18: Procrastination
Procrastination
My name is Christy and I am an alcoholic. Thanks for attending today’s meeting of GROW. My topic this week is Procrastination. I have certainly struggled, and still do, with procrastination in about all areas of my life. When I was drinking I would come up with grandiose plans of things to get done, crafts I could do, and places to see. But, I never got around to doing those things, because I was so tired and hungover the next day. Worse, was that I would make promises that I would never keep. Promises to my husband and my kids. I would tell them later we will do it or maybe. I thought that I needed that drink to let myself be free and be creative. When all I was doing was procrastinating and putting off being with my loved ones for a drink. My disease told me I was more fun and engaged when I was under the influence, when in actuality I was more removed from my family. My husband would tell me how removed I was from them, I isolated and was all about me.
I certainly don’t miss those days! AA has made me self aware and helped me find the true Christy again. I am very thankful I found AA and the fellowship. I am a new person, free to be me, more involved with my husband and kids. I am a crafty gal and I have so many new hobbies! I love my life, without alcohol. Thank you ladies for listening and fellowship!
Nov 11: The List and The Solution
The List and The Solution
This week I would like to share about the list of resentments and the solution to mastering them.
From the BB page…
We turned back to the list, for it held the key to the future. We were prepared to look for it from an entirely different angle. We began to see that the world and its people really dominated us. In that state, the wrong-doing of others, fancied or real, had power to actually kill. How could we escape? We saw that these resentments must be mastered, but how? We could not wish them away any more than alcohol. This was our course: We realized that the people who wronged us were perhaps spiritually sick. Though we did not like their symptoms and the way these disturbed us, they, like ourselves, were sick too. We asked God to help us show them the same tolerance, pity, and patience that we would cheerfully grant a sick friend. When a person offended we said to ourselves, “This is a sick man. How can I be helpful to him? God save me from being angry. Thy will be done.”
When I first did a fourth step, I made a list. And when I did the fifth step my sponsor, at the time, helped me see my character defects. (I can see them a lot clearer today. Ha.) Today when I get my panties in a wad, my sponsor will send me to do a fourth step and then call her back. It’s easy for me to state my resentments. BUT it’s not so easy to look at it from a different angle.
I have to realize the people who wronged me are spiritually sick.
And to pray for them??!!
Seriously??
The holidays are approaching, and to be honest with you, many of the people on my list happen to be in my family (or my husbands family). Sometimes (ALOT) it feels impossible to see that they are spiritually sick and to pray for them. Especially my dad. It’s so hard for me not to blame him for things in my life. In the program, I have learned to set boundaries and to take care of myself. But sometimes in a single word or look that he gives—-a flame of anger can engulf me. So right now I am preparing myself. I am praying for him and my father in law (who I can’t stand). It’s really hard to pray for them –I don’t know what to say. I am setting time limits on family gatherings. I’m focusing on my husband and children and myself and what works best for our family.
I guess the last thing I want to say is that this stuff isn’t easy. But when I practice what is suggested, things tend to work out and I have peace instead of anger and anxiety.
Nov 04: Anonymity
Anonymity
I’ve been thinking about anonymity and all the different meanings it has had for me over the years in AA. At first, all it meant was that no one would know I was in AA, therefore an alcoholic. I was fearful about judgment and the stigma I attached, thinking it meant I was weak and/or defective.
After making amends and telling people I was in AA, I lost most of that fear. I have never has anything negative happen because someone knew I was a sober alcoholic.
In meetings and with sponsors I began to see anonymity in a different way. It had more to do with humility and my growing love for AA. I wanted to adhere to the traditions and respect the idea of being anonymous at any public level. I am not much of a social media person, but I think it is an area where many people question the bounds of being an anonymous member of AA.
Today anonymity means that I don’t disclose my membership in AA in any public way. I was on a vacation in Italy last month and the wine flowed. I was careful about alcohol (it was in desserts) and some people noticed that I didn’t drink. I’m careful in those situations because I’m never sure if it makes people uncomfortable. When I do disclose it, it’s always fine, but I hesitate to be totally transparent.
I wonder how others understand anonymity and how/when to share being in AA with strangers, in social media, in various groups, etc.
Oct 28: Practicing These Principles in All Our Affairs
Practicing These Principles in All Our Affairs
I am so grateful to be alive and sober today. I have gone through a lot of things in sobriety which I have learned is part of life. I have learned that I am not “special” that every human being is connected and we are more alike than we think. Learning how to practice the principals in all my affairs and to do the right thing when no one is looking has been huge for me. The growth that has come from doing what I know in my gut has been “right” has been one of the greatest gifts of recovery. Recently I have peeled off another layer of the onion. For the past 2 years I have struggled with an issue almost non-stop and I just could not let it go, and it ended up coming out sideways in a lot of areas in my life. I knew the entire time that the answer would come and that eventually I would grow though this and I feel like I finally reached a new level of acceptance. The answers are always in the steps and just because we are doing everything right doesn’t mean life “works out” sometimes.
“God is everything or nothing what is our choice to be?”
I am so grateful to be able to practice honesty dependability and transparency in my everyday life, thanks for letting me share.
Oct 21: On Awakening
On Awakening
On awakening let us think about the twenty-four hours ahead. We consider our plans for the day. Before we begin, we ask God to direct our thinking, especially asking that it be divorced from self-pity, dishonest or self-seeking motives. Under these conditions we can employ our mental faculties with assurance, for after all God gave us brains to use. Our thought-life will be placed on a much higher plane when our thinking is cleared of wrong motives.
In thinking about our day we may face indecision. We may not be able to determine which course to take. Here we ask God for inspiration, an intuitive thought or a decision. we relax and take it easy. We don’t struggle. We are often surprised how the right answers come after we have tried this for a while.
What used to be the hunch or the occasional inspiration gradually becomes a working part of the mind. Being still inexperienced and having just made conscious contact with God, it is not probable that we are going to be inspired at all times. We might pay for this presumption in all sorts of absurd actions and ideas. Nevertheless, we find that our thinking will, as time passes, be more and more on the plane of inspiration. We come to rely upon it.
We usually conclude the period of meditation with a prayer that we be shown all through the day what our next step is to be, that we be given whatever we need to take care of such problems. We ask especially for freedom from self-will, and are careful to make no request for ourselves only. We may ask for ourselves, however, if others will be helped. We are careful never to pray for our own selfish ends. Many of us have wasted a lot of time doing that and it doesn’t work. You can easily see why.
If circumstances warrant, we ask our wives or friends to join us in morning meditation. If we belong to a religious denomination which requires a definite morning devotion, we attend to that also. If not members of religious bodies, we sometimes select and memorize a few set prayers which emphasize the principles we have been discussing. There are many helpful books also. Suggestions about these may be obtained from one’s priest, minister, or rabbi. Be quick to see where religious people are right. Make use of what they offer.
As we go through the day we pause, when agitated or doubtful, and ask for the right thought or action. We constantly remind ourselves we are no longer running the show, humbly saying to ourselves many times each day “Thy will be done.” We are then in much less danger of excitement, fear, anger, worry, self-pity, or foolish decisions. We become much more efficient. We do not tire so easily, for we are not burning up energy foolishly as we did when we were trying to arrange life to suit ourselves.
It works – it really does.
We alcoholics are undisciplined. So we let God discipline us in the simple way we have just outlined. But this is not all. There is action and more action. “Faith without works is dead.” (from “Alcoholics Anonymous pg. 86-88)
I have always enjoyed this passage. For me, it encapsulates our AA morning ritual.
When I read it, it reminds me that my answers and solutions are right there, with my higher power. I surrender my will and my life to him each morning. I ask him to guide me and show me my next right action.
The time I spend in prayer and meditation are always time well spent.
How does this AA passage aid you in your sobriety?
Have a blessed day!
Oct 14: Sharing
Sharing
Hello, my dear sisters in sobriety! Thank you for this opportunity to chair a meeting. As I was fishing for a topic, this is what came up for me:
It seems to me that secrets are about the only things (besides mushrooms) that grow in the dark. Secrets, wrapped up in shame, hiding under denial, festering in isolation, begging for a drink to keep them under wraps…What are my secrets today? Apparently I still have a few (!) — I’ve been going through a pretty difficult time, but have I shared about it? I have been going to f2f meetings, but I haven’t been opening my mouth. And I have been absent from GROW for quite some time. I get into that vicious cycle of not sharing regularly, and a week turns into two weeks, which turns into a month of not even checking in. Meanwhile, my secret shame is doing push-ups (just like my alcoholism) and starting to tell me things like, “You might as well drop out of GROW,” and other, worse things, which, experience has taught me, sooner or later will lead me to the alcohol watering hole.
Luckily (coincidence? I think not) I had signed up to chair this week — Something is keeping me connected to GROW…and committed to growing. The higher power, I believe, is doing this for me, in spite of my vicious mind. I have been shown my primary purpose — to stay sober and help another alcoholic. How to do that? HOW, the first one being Honesty, which takes courage, and courage takes faith, and faith takes letting go and turning it over, which gives me the strength to be Open and Willing to connect to other alcoholics by sharing whatever is going on with me. I know a drink is waiting for me to close up again and dive back into the depths of old thinking.
You know what hit me as I was reading back over this? I said, “I’ve been going through a pretty difficult time,” and it finally dawned on me — why is it difficult? I’ve been trying to control everything again! D’oh! So that’s what has been going on with me! All I had to do was put my problem into words (and the particulars really don’t matter) and share it, whether in writing or at a meeting, and the miracle of being restored to sanity can happen. And I didn’t have to drink over it!
Thank you all for letting me (and encouraging me to) share.
Oct 07: Gratitude for GROW and A.A.
Gratitude for GROW and A.A.
For this week’s meeting, I wanted to express my gratitude for AA and this meeting in particular.When I first got sober, I joined three women’s groups online. I had heard meeting makers “make it” and since I wouldn’t be able to make a meeting every day, I wanted to find online meetings.
After some time, I dropped one that didn’t really seem to be focusing on the solution and good quality sobriety. That’s ok. Hopefully it works for other women.
And now, I’m ready to drop another for lack of participation. It’s a bummer but it is what it is. Maybe it’s time for me to find a new online group.
I just read somewhere that “Gratitude is nothing more than a decision to look at problems with a fresh perspective.”
AA has been the best thing that’s happened in my life. Aside from my husband and two girls. I don’t attend the same meetings face to face as I did when I first got sober. Some I have outgrow and then when I moved I wanted to find new ones more convenient to my home and my new schedule.
The problem or challenge I’m facing is lack of participation. But I didn’t want to focus too long on that. Instead I realized just how grateful I am to Grow.
I share that I can’t stay sober on my own. I don’t want to try. But as a working married mother of two, I rely on online A.A. to supplement my face to face meetings.
I’m grateful that this group here at grow is so solid. Such great sobriety. So many women truly living in the solution and willing to share their esh with the group. I’m also grateful to those that share off topic when they need to do so. I know I have. And in doing so, someone has always reached out personally sharing their own experience, strength and hope.
I hope we all continue to do so. My life is so good as a result of working this program of recovery.
Gratitude is an action and I want to share it with you and everyone I come into contact with.
My sponsor has me saved in her phone as grateful Julie. I don’t ever want to go back to how it was being so flipping ungrateful.
Monthly Step Letters
Monthly Step Meeting Letter Templates
Below is a list of letter templates for the monthly step meeting.
Monthly Tradition Letters
January: Tradition 1
February: Tradition 2
March: Tradition 3
April: Tradition 4
May: Tradition 5
June: Tradition 6
July: Tradition 7
August: Tradition 8
September: Tradition 9
October: Tradition 10
November: Tradition 11
December: Tradition 12
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January: Tradition 1
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 1. The Traditions are what guide most AA groups. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 1 ***
“Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends upon A.A. unity.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“Each member of Alcoholics Anonymous is but a small part of a great whole. A.A. must continue to live or most of us will surely die. Hence our common welfare comes first. But individual welfare follows close afterward.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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February: Tradition 2
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 2. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 2 ***
“For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority – a loving God as He may express Himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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March: Tradition 3
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 3. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 3 ***
“The only requirement for A.A. membership is a desire to stop drinking.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“Our membership ought to include all who suffer from alcoholism. Hence we may refuse none who wish to recover. Nor ought A.A. membership ever depend upon money or conformity. Any two or three alcoholics gathered together for sobriety may call themselves an A.A. group, provide that, as a group, they have no other affiliation.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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April: Tradition 4
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 2. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 4 ***
“Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or A.A. as a whole.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“With respect to its own affairs, each A.A. group should be responsible to no other authority than its own conscience. But when its plans concern the welfare of neighboring groups also, those groups ought to be consulted. And no group, regional committee, or individual should ever take any action that might greatly affect A.A. as a whole without conferring with the trustees of the General Service Board. On such issues our common welfare is paramount.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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May: Tradition 5
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 5. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 5 ***
“Each group has but one primary purpose – to carry its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“Each Alcoholics Anonymous group ought to be a spiritual entity having but one primary purpose – that of carrying its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books, Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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June: Tradition 6
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 6. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 6 ***
“An A.A. group ought never endorse, finance or lend the A.A. name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property and prestige divert us from our primary purpose.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“Problems of money, property, and authority may easily divert us from our primary spiritual aim. We think, therefore, that any considerable property of genuine use to A.A. should be separately incorporated and managed, thus dividing the material from the spiritual. An A.A. group, as such, should never go into business. Secondary aids to A.A., such as clubs or hospitals which require much property or administration, ought to be incorporated and so set apart that, if necessary, they can be freely discarded by the groups. Hence such facilities ought not to use the A.A. name. Their management should be the sole responsibility of those people who financially support them. For clubs, A.A. managers are usually preferred. But hospitals, as well as other places of recuperation, ought to be well outside A.A. — and medically supervised. While an A.A. group may cooperate with anyone, such cooperation ought never go so far as affiliation or endorsement, actual or implied. An A.A. group can bind itself to no one.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books, Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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July: Tradition 7
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 7. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 7 ***
“Every AA Group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining outside contributions.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“The A.A. groups themselves ought to be fully supported by the voluntary contributions of their own members. We think that each group should soon achieve this ideal; that any public solicitation of funds using the name of Alcoholics Anonymous is highly dangerous, whether by groups, clubs, hospitals, or other outside agencies; that acceptance of large gifts from any source, or of contributions carrying any obligation whatever, is unwise. Then too, we view with much concern those A.A. treasuries which continue, beyond prudent reserves, to accumulate funds with no stated A.A. purpose. Experience has often warned us that nothing can so surely destroy our spiritual heritage as futile disputes over property, money, and authority.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books, Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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August: Tradition 8
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 8. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 8 ***
“Alcoholics Anonymous should remain forever nonprofessional, but our service centers may employ special workers.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“Alcoholics Anonymous should remain forever nonprofessional. We define professionalism as the occupation of counseling alcoholics for fees or hire. But we may employ alcoholics where they are going to perform those services for which we might otherwise have to engage nonalcoholics. Such special services may be well recompensed. But our usual A.A. ’12 Step’ work is never to be paid for.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books, Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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September: Tradition 9
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 9. The Traditions certainly inform our
*** Tradition 9 ***
“AA., as such, ought never be organized; but we may create service boards or committees directly responsible to those they serve.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“Each A.A. group needs the least possible organization. Rotating leadership is the best. The small group may elect its secretary, the large group its rotating committee, and the groups of a large metropolitan area their central or intergroup committee, which often employs a full-time secretary. The trustees of the General Service Board are, in effect, our A.A. General Service Committee. They are the custodians of our A.A. Tradition and the receivers of voluntary A.A. contributions by which we maintain our A.A. General Service Office at New York. They are authorized by the groups to handle our over-all public relations and they guarantee the integrity of our principle newspaper, the A.A. Grapevine. All such representatives are to be guided in the spirit of service, for true leaders in A.A. are but trusted and experienced servants of the whole. They derive no real authority from their titles; they do not govern. Universal respect is the key to their usefulness.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books, Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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October: Tradition 10
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 10. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 10 ***
“Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the A.A. name ought never be drawn into public controversy”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“No A.A. group or member should ever, in such a way as to implicate A.A., express any opinion on outside controversial issues–particularly those of politics, alcohol reform, or sectarian religion. The Alcoholics Anonymous groups oppose no one. Concerning such matters they can express no views whatever.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books, Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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November: Tradition 11
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 11. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 11 ***
“Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“Our relations with the general public should be characterized by personal anonymity. We think A.A. ought to avoid sensational advertising. Our names and pictures as A.A. members ought not be broadcast, filmed, or publicly printed. Our public relations should be guided by the principle of attraction rather than promotion. There is never need to praise ourselves. We feel it better to let our friends recommend us.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books, Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
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December: Tradition 12
We are all invited to share, at any time this month, on Tradition 12. The Traditions certainly inform our group conscience decisions and the original structure for GROW. We look forward to your shares.
*** Tradition 12 ***
“Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our Traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities.”
This Tradition is listed in one of the appendices in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (affectionately known as the Big Book) (see p. 562). There is a little more in The Long Form, which starts on p. 563, which has more about some of the Traditions, and lists them all together:
“And finally, we of Alcoholics Anonymous believe that the principle of anonymity has an immense spiritual significance. It reminds us that we are to place principles before personalities; that we are actually to practice a genuine humility. This is to the end that our great blessings may never spoil us; that we shall forever live in thankful contemplation of Him who presides over us all.”
There is more about it in the book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions.
*** Where to get the books, Alcoholics Anonymous and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions ***
These books may be found at many f2f AA meetings, ordered online from many places, and available from the AA General Service office, to read online, in English, French, and Spanish. See www.aa.org
Sponsor List Invitation
Dear Women of GROW,
You can enhance your sobriety by offering to sponsor other alcoholics and share what has been given to you with others. If you would like to offer your name as a potential online sponsor in this group, please review the GROW web page on Sponsorship at g-r-o-w.com/member-welcome/trusted-servants/online-sponsors/ (Password: sobertodayhow2484). You might also refer to AA’s pamphlet “Questions and Answers on Sponsorship” at aa.org/assets/en_US/p-15_Q&AonSpon.pdf.
If after reviewing this information, you want to add your name to our list, please send me the following information:
- name
- geographic location
- sobriety date
- telephone number (if you wish)
- current e-mail address
- whether you are interested in being a temporary sponsor for a new member to GROW
You will then be added to our Available Online Sponsors list which is sent to the group each month and to those who ask about sponsorship (whether on a temporary or permanent basis). Know the list is updated every month, and you must affirm your desire to stay on the list from month to month. Please know that you may be asked to sponsor newcomers and be alert to a suggested response time of 48 hours.
Thank you,
[Name]
Sponsor Listkeeper
0418 – Final Summary
Final Summary of April 2018 Business Meeting
Twenty-eight participants signed up for the April 2018 Business Meeting. Thank you to everyone who took an interest, and a special thank you to those who participated through it all. During the meeting, we considered 13 proposals and made 12 Group Conscience decisions. One proposal addressing Roll Calls was withdrawn and a new one submitted in its place. The substitution was approved and adopted.
Perhaps the most substantive proposal that was considered was the Report & Proposal to create a new GROW website based using a WordPress platform. We made a unanimous decision to accept the proposal. Workgroup members include: Tanya C (Workgroup Leader & Webkeeper), Cheryl D (Webkeeper Backup), Laurie C, Gigi D, and Allison M. The workgroup will continue to implement the steps they outlined in the proposal, and they will present the proposed new website and related job descriptions in the October 2018 business meeting.
Except for the website and one other proposal (a reminder in the Weekly Meeting Format Letter that we discourage the use of URLs in GROW mail), all other proposals resulted from the review of Trusted Servant job descriptions.
Group Conscience Decisions
- GROW will create new website using WordPress as its platform to be hosted on the current host (oso-aa.org). The workgroup will present the proposed website in October 2018 that will include revised job descriptions for the Webkeeper and Webkeeper Backup as well as for a new Trusted Servant position of Website Administrator.
- GROW will participate in the OIAA monthly meeting by providing the following anonymous data about our group: (1) Total membership number and number of new members and (2) Total amount of sobriety for members celebrating sobriety birthdays.
- Amend Treasurer’s Job Description to reflect actual practices and constraints: (a) Delete line item directing Treasurer to submit monthly reports to the Steering Committee. (b) Change period for distributions to GSO from quarterly to semi-annual consistent with our Business Meetings.
- Add language about not using URLs in messages to blank “Topic for the week” section of the Weekly Meeting Format Letter.
- Delete references in the GSR job description to the OIAA Representative including the position title and two bullets describing the GSR’s involvement with OIAA. Consistent with this change, also delete references to GSR in OIAA Rep job description.
- Delete three duties from the Greeter job description that are not relevant to the job.
- Amend the existing bullet in the Grapevine Representative job description that calls on the GVR to lead one meeting a month and add sentences to the Grapevine Form Letter inviting members to share on the month’s theme. Amend existing duties in the Weekly Leader Listkeeper job description to specify the timing.
- Amend the bullet referring to a 12th Step Back-up to delete that reference.
- Add a bullet to the OIAA Representative’s job description to submit monthly anonymous information about GROW to OIAA.
- Add a bullet to the Listkeepers’ job description about providing monthly information about GROW to the OIAA Representative.
- Edit the existing bullet under the Listkeepers’ Job Description to call for Roll Calls of the GROW membership be done only when there are disruptive email issues, as recommended by oso-aa.org technical support. Our Listkeepers will determine when the issues warrant a Roll Call.
There were no proposals that received “I disagree” votes; therefore, no minority opinions were needed. The only item to carry forward to the October meeting will be the presentation of the new GROW website design and related job descriptions.
This final summary concludes our GROW April 2018 Business Meeting. Special thanks to our Webkeepers, Tanya and Cheryl, for posting decisions and minutes on our website. Also, thanks to our Listkeepers, Nancy C and Karen H, for their work in getting members signed up for the meeting. By the way, you do not have to ask the Listkeepers to unsubscribe you from the Business Meeting; they will do the unsubs in a couple of days.
Thank you all for being here. A special thanks to those who participated in discussions and voting. You made this meeting a great success!
The meeting is now adjourned.
Respectfully submitted, danna M | Business Meeting Chair dmcd.grow@zoho.com
0418 – Fifth 3-day Period Minutes
Fifth 3-Day Period
During the fifth 3-day session, we voted on three proposals. There were no discussions, and no new proposals were submitted. Fourteen (14) people voted for each of the proposals, and all votes were “I agree.” Therefore, we have three new Group Conscience Decisions:
Results of Voting
Proposal 11.5 OIAA Representative’s Job Description
Add a bullet to the OIAA Representative’s job description to submit monthly anonymous information about GROW to OIAA.
Recommended Language: (new 6th bullet)
Each month, provide OIAA with (1) the number of members in GROW and the number of new members that month and (2) the total amount of sobriety for members who celebrated an anniversary in that month.
Proposal 12.5: OIAA-related bullet – Listkeepers’ Job Description
Add a bullet to the Listkeepers’ job description about providing monthly information about GROW to the OIAA Representative.
Recommended Language: (new 7th bullet)
Provide the OIAA Representative with the total number of GROW members and the number of new members each month.
Proposal 13.5: OIAA-related bullet – Listkeepers’ Job Description
Edit the existing bullet under the Listkeepers’ Job Description to call for Roll Calls of the GROW membership be done only when there are disruptive email issues, as recommended by oso-aa.org technical support. Our Listkeepers will determine when the issues warrant a Roll Call.
Recommended Language (Listkeepers’ Job Description):
Conduct a roll call every year. Determine the need for and conduct a roll call of GROW members when there are disruptive email issues. Our Listkeepers will determine when the issues warrant a Roll Call, and the particulars of when and how shall be left to the discretion of the Listkeepers.
There are no more discussions or proposals. Since there were no “I disagree” votes, there is no need to wait for a minority opinion or a revote.
This was a very easy meeting! There was not one single negative vote even though we had a mountain of proposals. Of course, most of the proposals resulted from the Trusted Servants’ reviews of their job descriptions, making some work for our webkeepers.
The most outstanding action we took was approving the Web Workgroup’s report and proposal for GROW’s website. A huge thanks goes out to the workgroup, which includes Tanya C (Workgroup Leader & Webkeeper), Cheryl D (Webkeeper Backup), Laurie C, Gigi D, and Allison M. They will continue to work on the new website and job descriptions which will be presented to us in the October 2018 Business Meeting.
I will send out a summary of the entire meeting shortly, at which time I will adjourn the meeting.
Respectfully submitted, danna M | Business Meeting Chair dmcd.grow@zoho.com
0418 – Fourth 3-day Period Minutes
Fourth 3-Day Period
During the fourth 3-day session of our April 2018 meeting, we voted on four proposals and discussed three new proposals. This is going to be an easy one. On all four of our proposals, the vote (of 16 for each) was unanimously in favor of the proposal; therefore, we have four new group conscience decisions.
Results of Voting
Proposal 7.3: Greeters Job Description
Delete the following three duties from the Greeter job description that are not relevant to the job:
- If new member does not have access to the web, forwards group information, as requested.
- Sends resubscription requests to the Listkeeper.
- Communicates with the GROW 12-Step Volunteer Listkeeper about women who may need extra support.
Proposal 8.3 Grapevine Rep Job Description
Amend the existing bullet in the Grapevine Representative job description that calls on the GVR to lead one meeting a month and add sentences to the Grapevine Form Letter inviting members to share on the month’s theme.
Recommended change in job description: The GVR will chair one meeting a month on inform the group of the topic presented in that month’s Grapevine.
Recommended change in Grapevine Form Letter, Add the following language to the first paragraph as follows:
This month’s topic is: [from aagrapevine.org/]. This month’s feature story in print is: [from aagrapevine.org/] – summary available online. This month’s online feature story is: [from aagrapevine.org/]. Note that in order to read entire article, one has to subscribe; however, there is usually one that is available to read in its entirety. I encourage you to share on this month’s Grapevine theme or feature story. When you do, please put “Grapevine Topic:” in the subject line of your message.
Proposal 9.3 Weekly Leader Listkeeper Job Description
Amend existing duties in the Weekly Leader Listkeeper job description to specify the timing as follows:
Amend existing bullet and add a new bullet to address non-related duties:
Send the one-month schedule of meeting chair dates and corresponding Weekly Leaders to the group on a monthly basis (in addition to posting regular weekly reminders of the meeting topics). At mid-week, re-post the Sunday meeting topic e-mail letter.
Add language specifying timing on two existing bullets:
At mid-week before the new meeting provide weekly topic leader with clean copy of meeting format.
At the beginning of each month, post Step and Tradition discussion topics to correspond with the month.
Proposal 10.3 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper Job Description
Amend the bullet referring to a 12th Step Back-up to delete that reference as shown below:
Recommended Language (for 12th Step Listkeeper):
Notify 12th Step Back-up, Group the Listkeeper and Greeters Secretary if unavailable for a period of time. (Backup will then Greeters and/or Listkeepers Secretary will either assume the above responsibilities or work with the Steering Committee to assure the duties are performed in the 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper’s absence). The 12th Step Listkeeper will provide a current list of 12th Step Volunteers to the Secretary/Greeters/Listkeepers when she notifies her of her temporary absence.
Recommended Language (for Greeters and Listkeepers Secretary):
In 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper’s temporary absence, either alert 12th Step volunteers of a need for support or work with Steering Committee to assure these duties are covered.
For Listkeepers’ job description, delete three existing bullets referring to 12th Step activities.
Greet, correspond with, introduce and subscribe emergency 12th Step calls.
Forward names to 12th Step Listkeeper.
Maintain two-month archive of these names.
Discussion of New Proposals
This one will be very easy. There was little discussion on the three new proposals, and all comments supported the proposals. In the fifth 3-day session, we will vote on these proposals.
Please do not submit your vote until you receive the official “Call for Votes” message.
The three proposals we will vote on are:
Proposal 11.5: Add a bullet to the OIAA Representative’s job description to submit monthly anonymous information about GROW to OIAA.
Proposal 12.5: Add a bullet to the Listkeepers’ job description about providing monthly information about GROW to the OIAA Representative.
Proposal 13.5: Edit the existing bullet under the Listkeepers’ Job Description to call for Roll Calls.
There are no more proposals to consider during this meeting. I will announce the results of voting on Tuesday, April 17th. If no more proposals have been submitted by then, we will adjourn the meeting.
Thank you all for your service to GROW!
Respectfully submitted, danna M | Business Meeting Chair dmcd.grow@zoho.com
0418 – Third 3-day Period Minutes
Third 3-Day Period
During the third 3-day session of the April 2018 GROW Business Meeting, we voted on four proposals and discussed five more proposals. Your votes were unanimous on all of the proposals. We are, therefore, adding four more new Group Conscience decisions. While there was broad agreement on two of the five proposals being discussed, three proposals generated some conversation.
Results of Voting
Proposal 1.2: OIAA Representative Job Description
GROW will participate in the OIAA monthly meeting by providing the following anonymous data about our group: (1) Total membership number and number of new members and (2) Total amount of sobriety for members celebrating sobriety birthdays.
The OIAA Representative will ask the Listkeeper to provide the number of new members each month and will use the Birthday Listkeepers end-of-month summary to collect the anonymous sobriety birthday information.
Sixteen (16) participants voted “I agree” (no one voted “I disagree”) on the proposal to provide anonymous data about GROW to OIAA each month. Therefore, the proposal passes.
**** The Chair now realizes that the proposal did not include adding anything to the OIAA Representative’s job description to reflect this decision. We will discuss a new proposal that adds a new bullet to the job description during the fourth 3-day session of our meeting.
*** The Chair further realizes that, in order to provide the information, our Listkeepers will have to keep a tally of new members each month to give this information to the OIAA Rep. We will discuss a new proposal that adds a new bullet to the job description during the fourth 3-day session of our meeting.
Proposal 2.2: Treasurer Job Description
Amend Treasurer’s Job Description to reflect actual practices and constraints: (a) Delete line item directing Treasurer to submit monthly reports to the Steering Committee. (b) Change period for distributions to GSO from quarterly to semi-annual consistent with our Business Meetings.
Eighteen (18) participants voted “I agree” on the proposal to delete one task from the job description and to change the frequency of distributions to GSO from quarterly to biannual consistent with our Business Meetings. There were no “I disagree” votes on the proposal. Therefore, the proposal is unanimously approved and adopted.
Proposal 3.2: URL Reminder
Add language about not using URLs in messages to blank “Topic for the week” section of the Weekly Meeting Format Letter.
Recommended Language (add to the Weekly Meeting Format Letter as shown):
Topic for the week: [ Introduce the Topic of the Week – Remember that we do not include URLs to sites outside GROW except links to the AA, Grapevine, and GROW websites.]
Eighteen (18) participants voted “I agree” on the proposal to add a reminder to our Weekly Topic Leader Message form letter that GROW discourages the use of URLs in messages to the list. No one voted “I disagree” on the proposal; therefore, it is approved and adopted.
Summary of Discussions
On two of the five proposals being considered during Session 3, comments were in general agreement. These were Proposal 7.2 (Greeter Job Description) and Proposal 9.2 (Weekly Leader Listkeeper Job Description). There were comments that disagreed with or that would amend the proposal for Proposal 6.2 (Listkeeper Job Description – Roll Call), Proposal 8.2 (Grapevine Representative Job Description), and Proposal 10.2 (12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper Job Description).
Some commenters on Proposal 6.2 (Listkeeper Job Description – Roll Call) felt that conducting a roll call every year is a valuable service. That we have decided to submit information on the number of members to OIAA each month underscored this point. A few participants questioned the need for doing a roll call at all except when there are problems with the list.
Update on Proposal 6.2: The person who submitted the proposal decided to withdraw the current language and substitute language that roll calls of the GROW membership be done only when there are disruptive email issues, as recommended by oso-aa.org technical support. Therefore, we will consider this change as a new proposal (13.4) during the fourth 3-day session. We will not vote on Proposal 6.2.
Comments on Proposal 8.2 (Grapevine Representative (GVR) Job Description) generally agreed with the proposal but would amend it on the question of what to put in the “Subject:” of messages on the Grapevine topic. Commenters agreed that the GVR should not lead a meeting every month but that she should send a monthly message to the group about the Grapevine theme and featured article.
The proposal called for the GVR to invite members to share on the theme or article, and commenters suggested that the invitation should include a request that members include “Off Topic” in the subject line of their shares. Several commenters felt that the subject line should include “Grapevine Topic.”
Agreeing with the latter, the Chair has modified the proposal to include the suggested language in the revised Proposal 8.3 for purposes of voting during the fourth 3-day session. Please do not vote on this proposal until you receive the “Call for Votes” message.
On Proposal 10.2 (12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper), questions arose as to whether the Greeters/Listkeepers are the appropriate Trusted Servants to notify if the 12th Step Listkeeper is temporarily unavailable to monitor messages and notify the committee of need for support. A participant pointed out that the Secretary already maintains a list of committee members and is the appropriate person to handle TS-related absences.
The Chair has changed the proposal to reflect the correct Trusted Servant (changing Greeters/Listkeepers to Secretary) responsible for managing TS absences. We will vote on this revised proposal during the fourth 3-day session. Please do not vote on this proposal until you receive the “Call for Votes” message.
During the fourth 3-day session of our meeting, we will vote on four proposals. We will discuss two new proposals that represent areas where job descriptions need to be changed to reflect Group Conscience decisions made earlier in this meeting: Proposal 11.4 (OIAA Job Description) will add monthly reporting to OIAA to the OIAA Representative’s job description and Proposal 12.4 (Listkeepers Job Description) will add providing a monthly tally of new members to the Listkeeper job descriptions so they can provide this information to the OIAA Representative. A third new Proposal 13.4 (Roll Calls) has been submitted that would eliminate regularly scheduled Roll Calls and authorize the Listkeepers to determine when a Roll Call is needed due to excessive problems with the mailing list or to cull members who no longer participate in GROW.
The Chair will request your comments on these issues during the fourth 3-day session in upcoming messages.
Respectfully submitted, danna M | Business Meeting Chair dmcd.grow@zoho.com
0418 – Second 3-day Period Minutes
Minutes for Second 3-day Period
During the second 3-day period of our April 2018 Business Meeting, participants voted on one proposal and discussed four new proposals.
Results of Voting on Proposal 4.1 – GROW Website
Of the 28 members on the business list, 21 voted in favor of the proposal. No one voted against it. Therefore, we have a unanimous Group Conscience decision, and the workgroup is now authorized to complete the tasks outlined in their Report/Proposal. We want to thank the workgroup for their ongoing efforts to improve GROW’s website: Tanya C (Workgroup Leader & Webkeeper), Cheryl D (Webkeeper Backup), Laurie C, Gigi D, and Allison M.
Group Conscience Decision:
GROW will create new website using WordPress as its platform to be hosted on the current host (oso-aa.org). The workgroup will present the proposed website in October 2018 that will include revised job descriptions for the Webkeeper and Webkeeper Backup as well as for a new Trusted Servant position of Website Administrator.
Workgroup Report/Proposal:
The workgroup proposes creating new website using WordPress as its platform. This allows for an archival, user-friendly, device-responsive solution that has plagued our current website. We recommend hosting it with our current host (oso-aa.org). The cost of hosting will not change from our current contributions. The cost for building the new website will be $0 as it will be built by members of the workgroup.
The process for building the new website will take 5-6 months to complete, and it is the intent of the workgroup to migrate the content of the old website to the new website without any major changes. However, due to the nature of the new platform (WordPress) there may be some deviation in its structure. It is the intent of the workgroup to note any such deviation and present it as a proposal for approval in the October business meeting.
Proposed detail timeline:
Set up the site and structure – 2 weeks
Copy content over 30 pages a month; current website has 91 pages – 3 months.
Review and test – one month
Copy content over 30 pages a month; current website has 91 pages – 3 months.
Discuss and iron out roles and description of trusted servants – admin, web-keeper and backup web-keeper. Prepare proposals to present in October – 2 weeks
Copy content over 30 pages a month; current website has 91 pages – 3 months.
Standards and rules (category/tags) for web-keepers, checklist for admin – 1 week
Copy content over 30 pages a month; current website has 91 pages – 3 months.
Prepare proposal(s) to be approve for site deviation(s) – 1 week
Copy content over 30 pages a month; current website has 91 pages – 3 months.
Projected total time – 4 1/2 months – 6 months (to allow for life events)
The workgroup recommends adding an Admin trusted-servant position with a specific list of functions to manage and oversee the backend of the website. We also recommend modifying the roles of webkeeper and backup webkeeper to the functions of maintaining the content of the website. We recommend that all these positions be rotating and voting members of the steering group. The specifics and detailed responsibilities of these roles will be presented in the October meeting.
It is our intent from this proposal is to get approval from the membership to proceed with building the new website.
It is outside the scope of this proposal to 1) review and modify the role of the Treasurer to be the keeper of the domain and host as they are the ones that transfer payment to those pertinent entities and 2) to review the contributions paid to oso-aa.org.
Discussions on Proposals Addressing Trusted Servant Job Descriptions:
During the second 3-day session, participants had the opportunity to discuss changes that were proposed to several positions as a result of reviews by Trusted Servants to assure their own position descriptions were up-to-date and accurate. The TS positions discussed in this session were: OIAA Representative, Treasurer, and GSR.
Comments were brief and generally supportive of the job description edits. The number of participants commenting on each proposal were: six on Proposal 1.2 (OIAA Rep), seven on Proposal 2.2 (Treasurer), and four on Proposal 5.2 (GSR). For Proposal 2.2, past Treasurers commented that the Rationale section of the proposal was not entirely accurate; however, they were in favor of the proposed job description edits.
Proposal 3.2 called for adding a reminder to the Weekly Meeting Format Letter that GROW’s policy is to discourage the use of URLs in posts to the mailing list. All comments supported the proposal. Comments supported this proposal.
In the third 3-day session, we will vote on Proposals 1.2, 2.2, 3.2, and 5.2. Please do not submit your vote on any of these until you receive the official “Call for Votes” message.
In the third 3-day session, we will also discuss several more proposals aimed at updating current Trusted Servant job descriptions. Given the limited comments on and general approval of these job description proposal in the second 3-day session, we will consider all remaining proposals at this time:
Proposal 6.3 (GROW Roll Call timing)
Proposal 7.3 (Greeters job description)
Proposal 8.3 (Grapevine Rep job description)
Proposal 9.3 (Weekly Leader Listkeeper job description)
Proposal 10.3 (12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper)
Respectfully submitted, danna M |Business Meeting Chair dmcd.grow@zoho.com
0418 – First 3-day Period Minutes
First 3-Day Period
We had an extremely quiet first 3-day session in which we considered one proposal. The Workgroup submitted their report and proposal for how to go about modernizing the GROW website. Six participants commented, all agreeing with the ideas outlined in the report. Given the unanimity of the comments, we will vote on Proposal 4.1 in the second 3-day session.
Also in the second 3-day session, we will consider four proposals, three of them representing the Trusted Servants’ review of their own job descriptions:
Proposal 1.2: OIAA Rep Job Description
Proposal 2.2: Treasurer Job Description
Proposal 5.2: GSR Job Description
We will also consider Proposal 3.2 adding a reminder about not using URLs in messages in the Weekly Meeting Format Letter.
If you would like to participate in our business meeting, please send a note to our Listkeepers (Nancy C. & Karen H.) at grow-owner@oso-aa.org/, and they will be sure you are on that list.
Respectfully, danna M | Business Meeting Chair
0418 – Proposal 13: OIAA-Related Bullet – Listkeepers’ Job Description
Proposal 13: OIAA-related bullet – Listkeepers’ job description
Proposal 13.4: Edit the existing bullet under the Listkeepers’ Job Description to call for Roll Calls of the GROW membership be done only when there are disruptive email issues, as recommended by oso-aa.org technical support. Our Listkeepers will determine when the issues warrant a Roll Call.
Recommended change in job description: (Listkeepers’ Job Description)
Conduct a roll call every year. Determine the need for and conduct a roll call of GROW members when there are disruptive email issues. Our Listkeepers will determine when the issues warrant a Roll Call, and the particulars of when and how shall be left to the discretion of the Listkeepers.
Rationale: GROW started doing Roll Calls when we were having significant problems with our members receiving and sending e-mails through our server. Some e-mail services were not sufficiently up-to-date to be compatible with our servers. The problems that led to the need for a Roll Call have been resolved. Our tech support person at oso-aa.org advises us that Roll Calls may be necessary when disruptive e-mail issues arise. Therefore, the need to conduct a Roll Call is dependent on two factors: unmanageable disruption of delivering/receiving e-mails through GROW or need to cull members who no longer use or want our service.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 13
There are no more discussions or proposals. Since there were no “I disagree” votes, there is no need to wait for a minority opinion or a revote.
Results of Voting on Proposal 13
The vote was unanimously in favor of the proposal, therefore, the proposal is approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Edit the existing bullet under the Listkeepers’ Job Description to call for Roll Calls of the GROW membership be done only when there are disruptive email issues, as recommended by oso-aa.org technical support. Our Listkeepers will determine when the issues warrant a Roll Call.
Recommended change in job description: (Listkeepers’ Job Description)
Conduct a roll call every year. Determine the need for and conduct a roll call of GROW members when there are disruptive email issues. Our Listkeepers will determine when the issues warrant a Roll Call, and the particulars of when and how shall be left to the discretion of the Listkeepers.
0418 – Proposal 12: OIAA-Related Bullet – Listkeepers’ Job Description
Proposal 12: OIAA-related bullet – Listkeepers’ job description
Proposal 12.4: Add a bullet to the Listkeepers’ job description about providing monthly information about GROW to the OIAA Representative.
Recommended change in job description: (new 7th bullet)
Provide the OIAA Representative with the total number of GROW members and the number of new members each month.
Rationale: A Group Conscience decision approved during this meeting authorizes the OIAA Rep to provide anonymous information about GROW to OIAA each month. The OIAA Rep does not have access to some of the information, so our Listkeepers will have to provide it. This proposal is a follow-up to the Group Conscience decision.
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Summary of Comments on Proposal 12
There are no more discussions or proposals. Since there were no “I disagree” votes, there is no need to wait for a minority opinion or a revote.
Results of Voting on Proposal 12
The vote was unanimously in favor of the proposal, therefore, the proposal is approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Add a bullet to the Listkeepers’ job description about providing monthly information about GROW to the OIAA Representative.
Recommended change in job description: (new 7th bullet)
Provide the OIAA Representative with the total number of GROW members and the number of new members each month.
0418 – Proposal 11: Changes to 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper’s Job Description
Proposal 11: Changes to 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper’s job description.
Proposal 11.4: Add a bullet to the OIAA Representative’s job description to submit monthly anonymous information about GROW to OIAA.
Recommended change in job description: (new 6th bullet)
Each month, provide OIAA with (1) the number of members in GROW and the number of new members that month and (2) the total amount of sobriety for members who celebrated an anniversary in that month.
Rationale: A Group Conscience decision approved during this meeting authorizes the OIAA Rep to provide this information. This proposal is a follow-up to the Group Conscience decision.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 11
There are no more discussions or proposals. Since there were no “I disagree” votes, there is no need to wait for a minority opinion or a revote.
Results of Voting on Proposal 11
The vote was unanimously in favor of the proposal, therefore, the proposal is approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Add a bullet to the OIAA Representative’s job description to submit monthly anonymous information about GROW to OIAA.
Recommended change in job description: (new 6th bullet)
Each month, provide OIAA with (1) the number of members in GROW and the number of new members that month and (2) the total amount of sobriety for members who celebrated an anniversary in that month.
0418 – Proposal 10: Changes to 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper’s Job Description
Proposal 10: Changes to 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper’s job description.
Proposal 10.3:
Edit the bullet referring to a 12th Step Back-up to delete that reference as shown below:
Recommended change in job description:
Notify 12th Step Back-up, Group the Listkeeper and Greeters if unavailable for a period of time. (Backup will then Greeters and/or Listkeepers will either assume the above responsibilities or work with the Steering Committee to assure the duties are performed in her absence).
Rationale: The bullet is out-of-date and inaccurate. There is no 12th Step Back-up, nor has there been for some time. The Listkeepers and Greeters can take the lead on covering her duties while the 12th Step Listkeeper is out of pocket, particularly by contacting the Steering Committee to find people who can cover the job.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 10
Results of Voting on Proposal 10
The vote (of 16) was unanimously in favor of the proposal, therefore, the proposal is approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Amend the bullet referring to a 12th Step Back-up to delete that reference as shown below:
Recommended Language (for 12th Step Listkeeper):
Notify 12th Step Back-up, Group the Listkeeper and Greeters Secretary if unavailable for a period of time. (Backup will then Greeters and/or Listkeepers Secretary will either assume the above responsibilities or work with the Steering Committee to assure the duties are performed in the 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper’s absence). The 12th Step Listkeeper will provide a current list of 12th Step Volunteers to the Secretary/Greeters/Listkeepers when she notifies her of her temporary absence.
Recommended Language (for Greeters and Listkeepers Secretary):
In 12th Step Volunteer Listkeeper’s temporary absence, either alert 12th Step volunteers of a need for support or work with Steering Committee to assure these duties are covered.
For Listkeepers’ job description, delete three existing bullets referring to 12th Step activities.
Greet, correspond with, introduce and subscribe emergency 12th Step calls.
Forward names to 12th Step Listkeeper.
Maintain two-month archive of these names.
0418 – Proposal 9: Changes to Weekly Meeting Listkeeper’s Job Description
Proposal 9: Changes to Weekly Meeting Listkeeper’s job description.
Proposal 9.3: Amend existing duties in the Weekly Leader Listkeeper job description to specify the timing as follows:
Amend existing bullet and add a new bullet to address non-related duties:
Send the one-month schedule of meeting chair dates and corresponding Weekly Leaders to the group on a monthly basis (in addition to posting regular weekly reminders of the meeting topics).
At mid-week, re-post the Sunday meeting letter.
Add language specifying timing on two existing bullets:
At mid-week before the new meeting provide weekly topic leader with clean copy of meeting format.
At the beginning of each month, post Step and Tradition discussion topics to correspond with the month.
Rationale: This proposal results from the Trusted Servant’s review of her current job description. The current job description does not make clear when these actions should occur. Specifying the timing will be helpful to people who are new in the position.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 9
Results of Voting on Proposal 9
The vote (of 16) was unanimously in favor of the proposal, therefore, the proposal is approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Amend existing duties in the Weekly Leader Listkeeper job description to specify the timing as follows:
Amend existing bullet and add a new bullet to address non-related duties:
Send the one-month schedule of meeting chair dates and corresponding Weekly Leaders to the group on a monthly basis (in addition to posting regular weekly reminders of the meeting topics). At mid-week, re-post the Sunday meeting topic e-mail letter.
Add language specifying timing on two existing bullets:
At mid-week before the new meeting provide weekly topic leader with clean copy of meeting format.
At the beginning of each month, post Step and Tradition discussion topics to correspond with the month.
0418 – Proposal 8: Changes to Grapevine Representative’s Job Description
Proposal 8: Add language about not using URLs in messages to the Weekly Meeting Format Letter.
Proposal 8.3:
Amend the existing bullet in the Grapevine Representative job description that calls on the GVR to lead one meeting a month and add a sentence to the Grapevine Form Letter inviting members to share on the month’s theme.
Recommended change in job description:
The GVR will chair one meeting a month on inform the group of the topic presented in that month’s Grapevine.
Recommended change in Grapevine Form Letter (Add a sentence to the first paragraph as follows)
This month’s topic is: [from aagrapevine.org/]. This month’s feature story in print is: [from aagrapevine.org/] – summary available online. This month’s online feature story is: [from aagrapevine.org/]. Note that in order to read entire article, one has to subscribe; however, there is usually one that is available to read in its entirety. I encourage you to share with the group on this month’s Grapevine theme or feature story.
Rationale: This proposal results from the Trusted Servant’s review of her current job description. Leading the weekly meeting is one of the most popular activities for members of GROW, and we quickly fill weekly slots. To reserve one meeting a month for the GVR would prevent many members from having that opportunity. Instead, the GVR will send a monthly message to the group highlighting the magazine’s theme for the month and inviting others to share on that topic.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 8
Results of Voting on Proposal 8
The vote (of 16) was unanimously in favor of the proposal, therefore, the proposal is approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Amend the existing bullet in the Grapevine Representative job description that calls on the GVR to lead one meeting a month and add sentences to the Grapevine Form Letter inviting members to share on the month’s theme.
Recommended change in job description: The GVR will chair one meeting a month on inform the group of the topic presented in that month’s Grapevine.
Recommended change in Grapevine Form Letter, Add the following language to the first paragraph as follows:
This month’s topic is: [from aagrapevine.org/]. This month’s feature story in print is: [from aagrapevine.org/] – summary available online. This month’s online feature story is: [from aagrapevine.org/]. Note that in order to read entire article, one has to subscribe; however, there is usually one that is available to read in its entirety. I encourage you to share on this month’s Grapevine theme or feature story. When you do, please put “Grapevine Topic:” in the subject line of your message.
0418 – Proposal 7: Changes to Greeters’ Job Description
Proposal 7: Changes to Greeters’ job description.
Proposal 7.3: Delete the following three duties from the Greeter job description that are not relevant to the job:
If new member does not have access to the web, forwards group information, as requested.
Sends resubscription requests to the Listkeeper.
Communicates with the GROW 12-Step Volunteer Listkeeper about women who may need extra support.
Rationale: This proposal results from the Trusted Servants’ review of their job description. Three bullets in the job description have historically not been done and should be removed. The first listed above is irrelevant, especially because if someone has access to e-mail, they have access to the web. The second is not needed because requests to resubscribe have not been received by the Greeters. The third is no more relevant to Greeters than to any other GROW member and should not be included as a specific duty for the Greeters.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 7
Results of Voting on Proposal 7
The vote (of 16) was unanimously in favor of the proposal, therefore, the proposal is approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Delete the following three duties from the Greeter job description that are not relevant to the job:
If new member does not have access to the web, forwards group information, as requested.
Sends resubscription requests to the Listkeeper.
Communicates with the GROW 12-Step Volunteer Listkeeper about women who may need extra support.
0418 – Proposal 6: Changes to Listkeepers’ Job Description
Proposal 6: Changes to Listkeepers’ job description.
Proposal 6.3: Change the line item in the Listkeepers’ job descriptions to reflect the actual need for GROW mailing list roll calls from every year to every third year or if list management problems arise.
Rationale: The change results from the current Trusted Servant’s review of the existing job description. The oso-aa.org administrator has informed our Listkeepers that the roll call is only needed when there are problems with the functioning of the list. Therefore, our Listkeepers recommend changing the frequency to once every three years unless unforeseen problems come up.
Recommended Language (amend the following bullet as shown): Conduct a roll call every third year or if needed to address list management problems when they arise. The particulars of when and how shall be left to the discretion of the Listkeepers.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 6
The person who submitted the proposal decided to withdraw the current language and substitute language that roll calls of the GROW membership be done only when there are disruptive email issues, as recommended by oso-aa.org technical support. Therefore, we will consider this change as a new proposal (13.4) during the fourth 3-day session. We will not vote on Proposal 6.2.
Results of Voting on Proposal 6
No voting on Proposal 6.2 as proposal was withdrawn as written and resubmitted revision in proposal 13.
Group Conscience Decision:
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0418 – Proposal 5: Changes to GSR Job Decription
Proposal 5: Changes to the GSR Job Description.
Proposal 5.2: Delete references in the GSR job description to the OIAA Representative including the position title and two bullets describing the GSR’s involvement with OIAA.
Rationale: This proposal results from the review of position descriptions by the Trusted Servant serving in the position. The current GSR, whose term began two years ago, reports that she has had no interaction with the OIAA Representative or with OIAA. Given that the two organizations are very different, it doesn’t make sense for the GSR to be the OIAA Rep’s backup.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 5.2
Results of Voting on Proposal 5
Seventeen (17) participants voted “I agree” on the proposal to eliminate mention of the OIAA Representative’s job in the General Service Representative’s job description. No one voted “I disagree;” therefore, the proposal is approved and adopted. Based on participant comments one addition was made to the proposal language for purposes of voting: we added a sentence to remove references to the GSR from the OIAA Rep’s job description.
Group Conscience Decision:
Delete references in the GSR job description to the OIAA Representative including the position title and two bullets describing the GSR’s involvement with OIAA. Consistent with this change, also delete references to GSR in OIAA Rep job description.
0418 – Proposal 4: Website Report and Proposal
Proposal 4: New Website Proposal
Proposal 4.1: GROW will create new website using WordPress as its platform to be hosted on the current host (oso-aa.org). The workgroup will present the proposed website in October 2018 that will include revised job descriptions for the Webkeeper and Webkeeper Backup as well as for a new Trusted Servant position of Website Administrator.
Workgroup Report/Proposal:
The workgroup proposes creating new website using WordPress as its platform. This allows for an archival, user-friendly, device-responsive solution that has plagued our current website. We recommend hosting it with our current host (oso-aa.org). The cost of hosting will not change from our current contributions. The cost for building the new website will be $0 as it will be built by members of the workgroup.
The process for building the new website will take 5-6 months to complete, and it is the intent of the workgroup to migrate the content of the old website to the new website without any major changes. However, due to the nature of the new platform (WordPress) there may be some deviation in its structure. It is the intent of the workgroup to note any such deviation and present it as a proposal for approval in the October business meeting.
Proposed detail timeline:
Set up the site and structure – 2 weeks
Copy content over 30 pages a month; current website has 91 pages – 3 months.
Review and test – one month
Discuss and iron out roles and description of trusted servants – admin, web-keeper and backup web-keeper. Prepare proposals to present in October – 2 weeks
Standards and rules (category/tags) for web-keepers, checklist for admin – 1 week
Prepare proposal(s) to be approve for site deviation(s) – 1 week
Projected total time – 4 1/2 months – 6 months (to allow for life events)
The workgroup recommends adding an Admin trusted-servant position with a specific list of functions to manage and oversee the backend of the website. We also recommend modifying the roles of webkeeper and backup webkeeper to the functions of maintaining the content of the website. We recommend that all these positions be rotating and voting members of the steering group. The specifics and detailed responsibilities of these roles will be presented in the October meeting.
It is our intent from this proposal is to get approval from the membership to proceed with building the new website.
It is outside the scope of this proposal to 1) review and modify the role of the Treasurer to be the keeper of the domain and host as they are the ones that transfer payment to those pertinent entities and 2) to review the contributions paid to oso-aa.org.
We will now have three days to discuss this proposal. Discussions will close at the end of the day on Wednesday, April 4.
A follow-up note to Proposal 4.1: We did not acknowledge the members of the Website workgroup. Our thanks to: Tanya C (Workgroup Leader & Webkeeper), Cheryl D (Webkeeper Backup), Laurie C, Gigi D, and Allison M. I am assuming that these women will answer questions about the proposal.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 4.1
Results of Voting on Proposal 4.1
Of the 28 members on the business list, 21 voted in favor of the proposal. No one voted against it. Therefore, we have a unanimous Group Conscience decision, and the workgroup is now authorized to complete the tasks outlined in their Report/Proposal. We want to thank the workgroup for their ongoing efforts to improve GROW’s website: Tanya C (Workgroup Leader & Webkeeper), Cheryl D (Webkeeper Backup), Laurie C, Gigi D, and Allison M.
Group Conscience Decision:
GROW will create new website using WordPress as its platform to be hosted on the current host (oso-aa.org). The workgroup will present the proposed website in October 2018 that will include revised job descriptions for the Webkeeper and Webkeeper Backup as well as for a new Trusted Servant position of Website Administrator.
0418 – Proposal 3: URL’s in the Weekly Meeting Format Letter
Proposal 3: Add language about not using URLs in messages to the Weekly Meeting Format Letter.
Proposal 3.2: Add language about not using URLs in messages to blank “Topic for the week” section of the Weekly Meeting Format Letter.
Rationale: Rationale: In April 2017, we decided to discourage the use of URLs – other than those to AA, Grapevine, and GROW website – in messages to our membership. A sentence was added to the monthly “GROW Guidelines for Email Participation” and the corresponding GROW webpage. Recently, a weekly meeting topic went out to our group containing a link to YouTube. Adding the approved language to the weekly meeting format letter will help avoid this.
Recommended Language (add to the Weekly Meeting Format Letter as shown): Topic for the week:
[ Introduce the Topic of the Week – Remember that we do not include URLs to sites outside GROW except links to the AA, Grapevine, and GROW websites. ]
Summary of Comments on Proposal 3.2
Four (4) participants commented on this proposal, all of them supporting it because it improves members’ understanding of AA organizations and events, as was raised in responses to the Group Inventory questions. We will vote on Proposal 11.5 during the fifth 3-day period of our meeting.
Results of Voting on Proposal 3.2
Eighteen (18) participants voted “I agree” on the proposal to add a reminder to our Weekly Topic Leader Message form letter that GROW discourages the use of URLs in messages to the list. No one voted “I disagree” on the proposal; therefore, it is approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Add language about not using URLs in messages to blank “Topic for the week” section of the Weekly Meeting Format Letter.
0418 – Proposal 2: Changes to Treasurer’s Job Description
Proposal 2.2: Changes to Treasurer’s Job Description FYI Letter
Amend Treasurer’s Job Description to reflect actual practices and constraints: (a) Delete line item directing Treasurer to submit monthly reports to the Steering Committee. (b) Change period for distributions to GSO from quarterly to semi-annual consistent with our Business Meetings.
Rationale: Rationale for Proposal 2.2 (a): In October 2013, by group conscience decision, a line was added to the Treasurer’s Job Description stating that the Treasurer would submit monthly reports to the Steering Committee. This has only happened twice – in the first two months after the decision was made. Since then, Treasurer’s reports have been submitted only for the Business Meetings in April and October. Further, it is not clear that monthly Treasurer’s Reports add anything to the effective operations of GROW, especially since no one has raised the lack of them as an issue. Therefore, we should delete that line item duty from the current Treasurer’s job description.
Rationale for Proposal 2.2 (b): Since we started archiving Treasurer’s Reports on GROW’s website in 2013, distributions to GSO have been made sporadically:
Date Amount
Apr-17 $711.04
Oct-16 $1,014.61
Apr-15 $611.35
Sep-14 $1,661.58
Jan-14 $ 260.29
Apr-13 $357.44
Oct-13 $351.66
During this period, distributions have never been made quarterly as required in the Treasurer’s job description. One reason for this is that, on a quarterly basis, total donations have not always been sufficient to cover both the Prudent Reserve and a donation to GSO. Therefore, GROW should make distributions to GSO every six months just prior to the Business Meeting and be included in the regular Treasurer’s Report. This is consistent with the way it has actually been done.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 2.1
Results of Voting on Proposal 2.1
Eighteen (18) participants voted “I agree” on the proposal to delete one task from the job description and to change the frequency of distributions to GSO from quarterly to biannual consistent with our Business Meetings. There were no “I disagree” votes on the proposal. Therefore, the proposal is unanimously approved and adopted.
Group Conscience Decision:
Amend Treasurer’s Job Description to reflect actual practices and constraints: (a) Delete line item directing Treasurer to submit monthly reports to the Steering Committee. (b) Change period for distributions to GSO from quarterly to semi-annual consistent with our Business Meetings.
0418 – Proposal 1: Changes to OIAA Representative’s Job Description
Proposal 1: Changes to OIAA Representative’s job description.
Proposal 1.2: GROW will participate in the OIAA monthly meeting by providing the following anonymous data about our group: (1) Total membership number and number of new members and (2) Total amount of sobriety for members celebrating sobriety birthdays.
The OIAA Representative will ask the Listkeeper to provide the number of new members each month and will use the Birthday Listkeepers end-of-month summary to collect the anonymous sobriety birthday information.
Rationale: OIAA asks that each group representative participates in an ongoing monthly meeting. Many group reps do this by mentioning who they represent and providing some statistics about their group such as, but not limited to: total number of members, number of new members last month, number of shares last month, either total sober years celebrated in the previous month OR the number of members celebrating. All information provided to OIAA by GROWs representative would be completely anonymous, containing no identifying information; only raw numbers would be shared at the OIAA level.
Summary of Comments on Proposal 1 (after approval of proposal)
**** The Chair now realizes that the proposal did not include adding anything to the OIAA Representative’s job description to reflect this decision. We will discuss a new proposal that adds a new bullet to the job description during the fourth 3-day session of our meeting.
**** The Chair further realizes that, in order to provide the information, our Listkeepers will have to keep a tally of new members each month to give this information to the OIAA Rep. We will discuss a new proposal that adds a new bullet to the job description during the fourth 3-day session of our meeting.
Results of Voting on Proposal 1
Sixteen (16) participants voted “I agree” (no one voted “I disagree”) on the proposal to provide anonymous data about GROW to OIAA each month. Therefore, the proposal passes.
Group Conscience Decision:
GROW will participate in the OIAA monthly meeting by providing the following anonymous data about our group: (1) Total membership number and number of new members and (2) Total amount of sobriety for members celebrating sobriety birthdays.
The OIAA Representative will ask the Listkeeper to provide the number of new members each month and will use the Birthday Listkeepers end-of-month summary to collect the anonymous sobriety birthday information.
0418 – OIAA Representative Report
Apr 2018 – OIAA Representative Report
Hi, I’m Jenny, an alcoholic and your GROW OIAA Representative, reporting on OIAA activities over the past six months.
- OIAA had a huge server crash and lost some member info. It took about two months for them to rebuild after the crash. Group representatives continue to trickle back into the meeting.
- OIAA has several active service groups:
Public Information Committee – provides info and help regarding online AA, meeting locations (physical and online), and other AA info: they respond to around 25-50 queries a month.
12th step committee – 327 requests for help in January alone. Very active.
Welcome committee – not sure how that works.
Unity Committee – Liasons between GSOs and Online AA. - Treasurer is new as of Jan 2018.
- Currently there are not a lot of OIAA members that participate in the month-long Tradition & Concept online meeting. Most people participate during the monthly “Group Report” where group representatives give some statistics about their group – new members, years of sobriety celebrated in their group recently, participation at conferences or other online services, etc. There are also reports from the OIAA sub groups and requests for people to participate in some service categories where membership is lacking. It is not necessary to be an OIAA member to participate in their service groups or to be a participant in the OIAA meeting; however, voting is limited to official group representatives.
- GROW does not currently contribute financially to OIAA – there is a helpful review of that group conscience in the Business Meeting archives on the GROW webpage.
There are opportunities for GROW to increase our participation in OIAA, perhaps initially through providing info at the monthly Group Report.
Jenny | OIAA Rep for GROW
0418 – GVR Report
Apr 2018 – GVR Report
I’m Sophie, an alcoholic and our Grapevine Rep for Grow.
Each month I send out the main theme from the Grapevine magazine as a topic for us Grow-ers to share on if we wish. I include one full article copied and pasted into the email. Alongside this I send out info about how to participate in the magazine.
I have received positive feedback from a few of members who either subscribe to Grapevine themselves or gift subscriptions and a couple of our members who’ve signed up for the daily Grapevine quotes by email.
As GVR, I’m also allowed to email any of our group any articles in full if they tell me the name of the article and month/year of publication. So far no one has requested me send them anything.
I’m grateful to be of service to our group. Thank you.
In love and fellowship, Sophie | GVR for GROW
0418 – GSR Report
Apr 2018 – GSR Report
Summary of GSR Reports sent to grow members in the past 6 months:
GSR Report – October 2017
In the Box 459 Newsletter, there is a lengthy article on the history of the Central Office in New York and central offices in so many other location. It discusses the evolution of AA from a hard-to-find fellowship to one that is easy to access for meeting information and/or having someone to talk to – very interesting.
There is also an article about OIAA, which would lead one to believe it is alive and well contrary to the experience of reps in this group.
There is a report on the 2016 Southeast regional forum in Orlando, an introduction of two new staff members at the General Service in New York and five new Class B Trustees.
here is also a calendar of events around the world.
Anyone can access the newsletter at https://www.aa.org/newsletters/en_US/en_box459_fall17.pdf
GSR Report March 2018
The recent issue of box 459 has some articles that are quite touching. The first is about AA in China and the difficulty in getting it established and available. There is an additional article about AA in Cuba, Asia, and Russia. Puerto Rico is trying to keep meetings going after the hurricanes and there is a report on that too.
Lastly, there is information about Public Service Announcements in video. I looked at a few of them and continue to be so grateful to our adherence to traditions. The PSA videos don’t promote, but do inform.
As always, there are dates and places for many AA functions world wide for the next few months.
The issue is available on line. Follow the link to a pdf file: https://www.aa.org/newsletters/en_US/en_box459_spring18.pdf
Submitted by Joan Bancroft | GSR for GROW
0418 – Treasurer’s Report
Apr 2018 – Treasurer’s Report
Donations
Balance from October 2017 $894.44
PayPal donations to GROW $335.24
Ally – check donations to GROW $402.00
Total donations $1,631.68
Distributions
GSO $1,384.68
Dean Collins / oso-aa.org $72.00
Reimbursement fro Grapevine (Sophie F. donated it back to GROW) $50.00
International exchange fees $2.84
Prudent Reserve $122.16
Total distributions $1,631.68
Total donations $1,631.68
Total distributions $1,631.68
Final balance $0.00
0418 – Listkeepers’ Report
Apr 2018 – Listkeepers’ Report
Our membership as of March 31, 2018 is 350 list members and 40 of those are digest members. (This number is always a little larger than our actual count because some members have two subscriptions – one for regular posts and one for digests, and some members have 2 regular list addresses.)
Nancy and I both want to thank Karen and Susan for their great service to GROW as Greeters. We all enjoyed working together!
Respectfully submitted, Louise H and Nancy C | GROW Listkeepers
0418 – Business Meeting Chair Report
Apr 2018 – Business Meeting Chair Report
“Mini” Steering Committee Activities
In April 2016, by Group Conscience Decision, we decided that the Business Chair, Secretary, and Listkeepers would be the main contacts when minor issue arose that needed Steering Committee Attention. If that “Mini” Steering Committee could not resolve the issue, it was to bring it to the full Steering Committee for resolution. Since October 2017, only one minor conflict arose which was resolved quickly with no need to elevate to the full Committee.
Review of Trusted Servant Job Descriptions
In April, I committed to ask Trusted Servants to review their current job descriptions posted to our website and identify any outdated or incorrect duties. As you know, I forgot about this, forcing everyone to do their reviews over the past week. I did not ask the Webkeeper or Webkeeper Backup to review their job descriptions, as they are working on a project that will involve this task.
I have received responses from all Trusted Servants! THANK YOU!!! Twelve job descriptions were reviewed. Five job descriptions were approved as is. Two job descriptions required minor changes that were not substantive, and they have been corrected on the webpage (see he bottom of this report).
Trusted Servants identified changes for seven job descriptions that would alter job duties assigned by Group Conscience decision. These changes will require discussion and decision-making by the participants of our Business Meeting. The positions we will discuss include:
General Services Representative (GSR)
Grapevine Representative (GVR)
Greeters
Listkeeper(s)
OIAA Representative
Treasurer
Weekly Leader Listkeeper
In order to make significant progress on the proposal for our website, I will defer presenting these proposals until the second 3-day session. Then, I will present these proposed changes in small batches over two or three 3-day sessions.
Job Description Changes Made without Business Meeting Review
Secretary – addition to bullet: Knows how to access job descriptions and form letters (particularly the monthly FYI and GROW Guidelines letters) necessary to carry out the tasks.
Temporary Mentor – edit to one bullet: About one 2-3 days after she joins, contact each new member to explain your position as Temporary Mentor (TM), offering to answer questions or provide guidance until the member feels comfortable in the GROW group. (Send letter # 1 – see below)
Delete the following bullet: If the TM has not heard from the new member in about 7 – 10 days, send letter #2. (see below)
If you think any of these changes should be discussed in our meeting, please let me know as soon as possible.
Respectfully yours, danna M. GROW | Business Chair dmcd.grow@zoho.com
0418 – Secretary’s Report
Apr 2018 – Secretary’s Report
Outgoing Trusted Servants
12 Step Listkeeper (10/17-4/18): Amanda D. amandabauman26@icloud.com
Birthday Listkeeper (10/17-4/18): Allison M. paonia.allison@gmail.com
Sponsor Listkeeper (10/17-4/18): Cheryl B. cab7thtradition@gmail.com
Greeters (4/17-4/18): Susan P. susan.poplawski@gmail.com
Greeters (4/17-4/18): Karen H. fromie10@gmail.com
Temporary Mentor (4/17-4/18): Gigi D. telperion2@comcast.net
Listkeeper (4/16-4/18): Louise H. wemerrilymeet@gmail.com
Weekly Leader Listkeeper (4/17-4/18): Sherrie W. thesherrie@earthlink.net
Incoming Trusted Servants: (March 26, 2018 new trusted servants)
12 step listkeeper (4/18-10/18): Cara A. caracadams@gmail.com
Birthday Listkeeper (4/18-10/18): Kristin pequenogato2@gmail.com
Sponsor Listkeeper (4/18-10/18): Susan P susan.poplawski@gmail.com
Greeters (4/18-4/19): Gigi D. telperion2@comcast.net
Greeters (4/18-4/19): Cheryl B. cab7thtradition@gmail.com
Temporary Mentor (4/18-4/19): Louise H. wemerrilymeet@gmail.com
Listkeeper Alternate (4/18-4/20): Karen H. fromie10@gmail.com
Weekly Leader Listkeeper (4/18-4/19): Amanda D. amandabauman26@icloud.com
Our Trusted Servants – April 2018
12 Step Listkeeper (4/18-10/18): Cara A. caracadams@gmail.com
Birthday Listkeeper (4/18-10/18): Kristin pequenogato2@gmail.com
Sponsor Listkeeper (4/18-10/18): Susan P. susan.poplawski@gmail.com
Trusted Servants who make up the Steering Committee:
Business Meeting Chair (10/16-10/18): Danna M. dmcd9999@zoho.com
GSR / OIAA Backup (10/16-10/18): Joan B. joanb333@gmail.com
VR (10/17-10/18): Sophie R. sophieflook@gmail.com
Greeter (4/18-4/19): Gigi D. telperion2@comcast.net
Greeter (4/18-4/19): Cheryl B. cab7thtradition@gmail.com
Listkeeper (4/8-4/19): Nancy C. cybergram@eastlink.ca
Listkeeper Alternate (4/18-4/20): Karen H. fromie10@gmail.com
Secretary (10/17-10/18): Karrie C. chaneykarrie@gmail.com
Temporary mentor (4/18-4/19): Louise H. wemerrilymeet@gmail.com
Treasurer (10/17-10/19): Sue W. scwill@optonline.net
Webkeeper (non-rotating position): Tanya C. tanyaq42@gmail.com
Webkeeper Backup (10/16-10/18): Cheryl D. cdematt@earthlink.net
Weekly Leader Listkeeper (4/18-4/19): Amanda D. amandabauman26@icloud.com
Immediate Past Business Meeting Chair: Gigi D. telperion.1214@gmail.com
Immediate Past GSR/OIAA Backup: Tanya C. tanyaq42@gmail.com
Immediate Past Secretary: Laura G. lmgraham1989@rogers.com
Respectfully, Karrie | GROW Secretary
0418 – Business Meeting Agenda
Apr 2018 – Business Meeting Agenda
Additional individual emails will be coming, to which you can respond.
Trusted Servant (TS) Positions – Incoming & Outgoing TS identified (posted separately)
Semi-Annual Reports: GSR, GVR, OIAA, Treasurer, Listkeeper, Secretary, Business Meeting Chair (posted separately)
Business Items (each will be posted separately to facilitate discussion and voting)
Below are the proposals received to date that we will discuss during the Business Meeting. The following list contains brief summaries rather than the full proposal language as it will be presented. If you have an item that you would like to have addressed, or if I have not accurately represented an item that you recommended, please email me privately and I will add it to the Agenda.
Proposal 1.1: Changes to OIAA Representative’s job description.
Proposal 2.1: Changes to Treasurer’s job description.
Proposal 3.1: Add language about not using URLs in messages to the Weekly Meeting Format Letter.
Proposal 4.1: Website report and proposal.
Proposal 5.1: Changes to GSR job description.
Proposal 6.1: Changes to Listkeepers’ job description.
Proposal 7.1: Changes to Greeters’ job description.
Proposal 8.1: Changes to Grapevine Representative’s job description.
Proposal 9.1: Changes to Weekly Meeting Listkeeper’s job description.
In order to give us ample time to discuss and make decisions on the website conversion, Proposal 4.1 will be the only proposal presented for discussion during the first three-day session.
The rest of the proposals, excluding Proposal 3.1 (Weekly Meeting Format Letter), present recommendations from current and prior Trusted Servants based on reviews of their job descriptions to assure they are current and accurate. Because the recommended changes represent substantive changes to the Trusted Servant’s job as approved by Group Conscience, your approval is necessary. They will be presented for discussion at the beginning of the second and third three-day sessions.
Two additional job descriptions were changed without a proposal, as they were not substantive. They were (deletions in strikeout/blue, additions in bold/red):
Secretary: Knows how to access job descriptions and form letters (particularly the monthly FYI and GROW Guidelines letters) necessary to carry out the tasks.
Temporary Mentor: About one 2-3 days after she joins, contact each new member to explain your position as Temporary Mentor (TM), offering to answer questions or provide guidance until the member feels comfortable in the GROW group. (Send letter # 1 – see below)
Also, delete the following bullet: If the TM has not heard from the new member in about 7 – 10 days, send letter #2. (see below)
Respectfully yours, danna M. GROW | Business Chair dmcd.grow@zoho.com
0418 – Business Meeting Welcome
Apr 2018 – Business Meeting Welcome
Greetings, and welcome to the April 2018 Business Meeting of Grateful Recovering Online Women (GROW).
I am danna, a recovering alcoholic, and your Business Chair for this meeting. Thank you for participating!
This is a closed meeting, open only to members of GROW, for the discussion of business as it relates to our group. Our business meetings run in three-day segments and last no more than 29 days.
I will post each Agenda item, one by one, in separate emails and **ask that you respond to each accordingly.** This makes it easier to “tally” the responses and suggestions to each item. We will have a three-day period of open discussion on each Agenda item. This, hopefully, will allow all members regardless of work schedules, time zones, etc. to participate and comment. At the beginning of the fourth day, I will post the results or consensus of our discussions.
Before we begin, let’s have a moment of silence to reflect on why we are here, followed by the Serenity Prayer.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. Amen.
In this Business Meeting, let us be guided by The Twelve Traditions:
Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends upon A.A. unity.
For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority — a loving God as He may express Himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern.
The only requirement for A.A. membership is a desire to stop drinking.
Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or A.A. as a whole.
Each group has but one primary purpose–to carry its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.
An A.A. group ought never endorse, finance or lend the A.A. name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property and prestige divert us from our primary purpose.
Every A.A. group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining outside contributions.
Alcoholics Anonymous should remain forever nonprofessional, but our service centers may employ special workers.
A.A., as such, ought never be organized; but we may create service boards or committees directly responsible to those they serve.
Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the A.A. name ought never be drawn into public controversy.
Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films.
Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities.
Let us all keep in mind our Unity of Service statement from the Grapevine of September 1998:
“Unity seldom means that we all agree on everything. Nor is unity served by setting aside our concerns and conforming to the majority opinion (or the vocal minority) . . . Unity is best achieved by a full hearing of all points of view . . . time for all of those involved to step back from emotional responses . . . as well as careful consideration and prayer for that which will best serve the group or AA as a whole.”
Thank you for being here and for your dedication to GROW.
Respectfully submitted, danna M. | GROW Business Chair dmcd.grow@zoho.com
2018 Business Meeting – April
2018 Business Meeting – April
(topics are listed below are in order of presentation)
Dec 31: Untreated Alcoholism
Untreated Alcoholism
The big book describes dry drunk syndrome and untreated alcoholism with the phrase “restless, irritable, and discontented”. Basically, if you happen to be a sober alcoholic, and find yourself constantly dissatisfied with life, you may be in the thick of untreated alcoholism. It’s obvious to spot untreated alcoholism — when the alcoholic is drinking. How do you spot it when the alcoholic is sober?
In our meetings, we often hear talk about stinking thinking, the insanity of the next drink, character defects, fear, resentments, the fear of relapse, the progressive nature of alcoholism, and how important it is for the alcoholic to stay physically sober.
One thing that I hear little talk about is the behavior and attitudes associated with untreated alcoholism and how it affects the alcoholic and the other people who must be around them. I work with many women who have been physically sober for years, some with double digit sobriety, yet their lives are still filled with turmoil, drama, conflict, unmanageability, glaring defects, more garbage piled onto old garbage that was never cleared, and most significantly I find that NONE of them have never sponsored another person…or if they have it was half asked.
These oldtimers will put on a great front. Happy hallmark meeting shares as they die inside. Or there are the ones that are jaded and unteachable-they hate everything and everyone, but know the big book front and back… using meetings as a place to spread their cheery disposition and have no problem humiliating a newcomer for share…If that’s sober…I don’t want it. I don’t care how much time they have. They would rather suffer and spread their suffering then seek help from someone new or be sponsored by somebody that has less time.
I could be sponsored right now by somebody with a month sober. God doesn’t care about time, why should I? What matters is the message and if they carry it effectively. There is no reason people should suffer having 25 years sober because they think there are above being taught by someone with less time.
We settle for being a dry drunk instead of being catapulted into the 4th dimension and being agents for God???…Why? Pride? Ego? Sloth? It’s starting to piss me off the more of these women come out of the woodwork. Like seriously, something is wrong with our fellowship when slogans and meetings overshadow the Solution. They are just as lost and sick as the newcomer we must start talking about this and what we can personally do each day to help shed light on what seem to be a epidemic in our fellowship. Chronic relapses because we as sponsors are lazy? I am going step up my game this next year. Period.
“They only thought they had lost their egoism and fear; they only thought they had humbled themselves. But they had not learned enough of humility, fearlessness and honesty, in the sense we find it necessary, until they told someone else all their life story. More than most people, the alcoholic leads a double life. He is very much the actor. To the outer world he presents his stage character. This is the one he likes his fellows to see. He wants to enjoy a certain reputation, but knows in his heart he doesn’t deserve it. The inconsistency is made worse by the things he does on his sprees.” pg 73
So are you yourself suffering from a reconstructed ego produced by “time” and refusing to stay teachable?…or are you a product of 90 meetings in 90 days?…or a never worked the Steps but go to meetings everyday?…or worked Steps 1-3 and my sponsor told me to “take my time” (that message kills people btw) or worked them once 10 years ago and chooses to “carry the message” by sharing at meetings just to hear themselves talk?…or untreated altogether alcoholic?? Have you lived with one a untreated drunk?? Do you know anyone suffering in silence? Sponsored any of them?
“We were having trouble with personal relationships, we couldn’t control our emotional natures, we were a prey to misery and depression, we couldn’t make a living, we had a feeling of uselessness, we were full of fear, we were unhappy, we couldn’t seem to be of real help to other people“
The alcoholic is like a tornado roaring his way through the lives of others. Hearts are broken. Sweet relationships are dead. Affections have been uprooted. Selfish and inconsiderate habits have kept the home in turmoil. We feel a man is unthinking when he says that sobriety is enough.
Below is something someone wrote about untreated alcoholism which I love. Private email me if you would like this dudes blog….also the “sign and symptoms of a dry drunk…
Love in the Sunlight of the Holy Spirit!
Hilarie
4.8.14
Untreated Alcoholism
The problem with only achieving physical sobriety is that we may never get any better.
Why?
Because sobriety doesn’t cure insanity, nor does it reduce selfishness. Sobriety doesn’t stop us from constantly whining and complaining, from thinking about ourselves 24/7. How ridiculous it is to get sober but remain mentally and spiritually warped beyond comprehension. In fact, if you’re gonna kick it and not really change, you might as well just keep drinking. At least you’d be making a small economic contribution.
Most addicts are actually more annoying when they’re sober yet untreated, if you can fathom that. We remain needy and obsessed with how we feel all of the time.
Oh no, what am I doing in life?! What am I gonna do today? What am I gonna do tomorrow?! Nobody knows what it’s like to be me. Me! Why do I feel this way? Poor me. Nobody has it this tough! The world owes me! I need a cigarette, I need this, I need that, I need to go to a meeting! I want cookies, I want ice cream, I want… wanh, wanh, wanh, wanh, wanh!
Yup. If all we do is remove the drugs and alcohol, we still act like drug addicts and alcoholics. But, hey, at least we’re sober! What a joke. Addicts and alcoholics can do as much, if not more damage to others by achieving physical sobriety but failing to actually get better.
Once sober, I literally have a volcano of work to do on myself. I must begin to extract the cauldron of poisons that have turned me into a pathologically selfish drug addict. I must extract the poisons of selfishness, self-seeking, dishonesty, fear, and countless others if I am to truly recover. I must take it upon myself to fundamentally change the person I was. I must change the way I act, react and respond. I must change the way I view suffering. I must change the way I approach others. I must change my attitude towards life, work, relationships and family. For sure, I must change from deep within.
Through right action, I begin to enlarge my spiritual life. I begin to accept that I shouldn’t be taking credit for every good thing that happens to me… and I shouldn’t be blaming something else for every bad thing. I begin to realize that the bad stuff is my own fault. It happens when I try to do things my way, when I exert my own selfish will. But the good stuff happens when I let go, when I step back a little and let something guide me that is much greater and more powerful.
Even if you’re an addict and you don’t believe that God is present in your life, maybe you should change your mind because it’s much better to have a humble attitude as opposed to attributing your recovery and success to you and you only.
Why?
Because it’s arrogant not to. Are we really that powerful? Are we really all-knowing? Do we really have it all figured out? Please. Look how small and insignificant we are compared to the entire Universe.
God, give me the courage, power and willingness to walk through discomfort, just like everybody else…
Dry Drunk Syndrome
Those individuals who give up alcohol but fail to do more work will often develop dry drunk syndrome. The symptoms of dry drunk syndrome include:
- They are likely to have a low tolerance for stress – even the slightest incontinence can send them into a rage.
- Such people will have few scruples about engaging in unethical behavior.
- The dry drunk will tend to blame all their problems on other people. They will fail to take responsibility for their own bad decisions.
- They continue to behave secretively and tell lies.
- The individual is likely to suffer from loneliness and boredom. They may later use this as a justification to return back to their addiction.
- They will tend to be full of self-pity. They view their time in recovery as being similar to serving a prison sentence.
- They are likely to romance the drink This means that they spend a good deal of time thinking about all the good times they had while drinking – even though such good times are usually just in their imagination.
- This individual tends to be overconfident in their ability to stay sober. They will deny that they need the help of anyone else.
- Even though this individual is physically sober they are still caught in denial. They just can’t see that their behavior needs to change.
- The dry drunk will usually suffer from terminal uniqueness. This means that they do not believe the normal rules apply to them, and this can put them in great danger.
- Such people tend to be full of negativity and resentment. This makes them difficult to be around.
Dec 10: Step 12, Faith and Action
Step 12, Faith and Action
Having had a spiritual awakening as result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics and to practice these principals in all our affairs.
Hello GROW,
I recently left a job that was no longer right for me. And I’m not worried that I won’t be able to find another. In fact, I feel confident that I will be looked after: as long as I take action. That means slowly looking for more appropriate work. And turning over any fear that comes up. Faith allows me to act when the time is right.
I learned how to do this by working the steps!
A few weeks ago a member wrote that turning it over or letting go is the action part of faith.
In Step 12 I learn that as a result of a spiritual awakening I’m able to go out into the world and help others. I’m able to apply the principles to anything that comes up; not just drinking.
Sometimes the action is reaching out, sometimes the action is letting go. But faith is what keeps me from acting on fear. This week, I’d like to hear how you practice Step 12. What actions have you been able to take in sobriety thanks to your faith in a Higher Power?
Please feel free to share on this topic or on whatever is happening in your program this week.
Thank you for allowing me to be of service.
Dec 03: Have I Hit Bottom?
Have I Hit Bottom?
As a newcomer, my sponsor and I attended a 12&12 study where two old-timers would break down the 12 & 12 literature. I recall reading this paragraph with excitement! In active alcoholism, the Court ordered treatment with recommendations that included AA. At a meeting, I met an alcoholic who would buy beer from me two years prior, standing before me with 18 months sobriety. He pointed out that AA could never work for me unless I could answer yes to two questions: am I willing to go to any lengths for my sobriety; and am I entirely done drinking. The answer was no. He told me to go out and get done. So, when reading the 12 & 12 with my sponsor and 2 old-timers, this paragraph resonated with me:
“Why all this insistence that every A.A. must hit bottom first? The answer is that few people will sincerely try to practice the A.A. program unless they have hit bottom. For practicing A.A.’s remaining eleven Steps means the adoption of attitudes and actions that almost no alcoholic who is still drinking can dream of taking. Who wishes to be rigorously honest and tolerant? Who wants to confess his faults to another and make restitution for harm done? Who cares anything about a Higher Power, let alone meditation and prayer? Who wants to sacrifice time and energy in trying to carry A.A.’s message to the next sufferer? No, the average alcoholic, self-centered in the extreme, doesn’t care for this prospect– unless he has to do these things in order to stay alive himself. Under the lash of alcoholism, we are driven to A.A., and there we discover the fatal nature of our situation. Then, and only then, do we become as open-minded to conviction and as willing to listen as the dying can be. We stand ready to do anything which will lift the merciless obsession from us.” 12&12
None of this could work without hitting bottom.
Question: have you hit your bottom? Are you entirely done drinking and willing to go to any lengths for your sobriety? If so, what are you willing to do for your recovery?
“Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path.” HOW, Chapter 5
Please share your experience, strength and hope. If you are unsure about hitting bottom, please share this with us too. Perhaps, our ESH would help the suffering alcoholic in this online room. God bless!
My name is Nicole and I am an alcoholic. Thank you for paying a 12 step call on me.
Nov 26: Dealing With Ego
Dealing With Ego
Ego is defined by Merriam-Webster as “the opinion that you have about yourself; a part of the mind that senses and adapts to the real world”.
This is the content for Layout P TagOn the other hand, Merriam-Webster’s definition of Humility is: “The quality or state of not thinking you are better than other people; the quality or state of being humble”.
When I drank, I felt I was smarter than and superior to everyone else and I let them know it! I could solve your problems and just about everyone else’s until the hangover hit the next morning at which time my attitude changed to ‘inferior’ and ego-shattering (my self-esteem) and feelings of guilt, shame and remorse set in – how could I have said or done those things the night before? What was wrong with me? Why couldn’t I have stopped drinking after 2 or 3 beers? How could I have been so stupid as to have gotten drunk yet one more time when I promised myself the last time that I would never do this again?
I think that it takes an act of true humility to realize and acknowledge that we have a problem with alcohol (or anything else for that matter). If I practice humility, it allows me to be honest with myself, recognize that I don’t know it all, admit that I need help, and acknowledge that there is a God and our trusted AA family and friends who can help. I didn’t come to AA because of something great and wonderful that I did – rather, I was a sick and sorry individual without any hope of living a meaningful, purposeful, happy life with or without alcohol.
My program teaches me that a big part of being humble is to respect others and offer to help them, especially when they cannot help me in return. It also teaches me to admit that I’ve made mistakes, own up to them, and make amends, if necessary. Instead of comparing myself to others, I can take a measure of my own progress by comparing the person I am today to the person I used to be, because no one’s “outsides” will ever match my “insides”. Repeated inventories and Twelfth-Step work are routine reminders that I must work at preserving my sobriety and keeping my ego in check.
I would like to hear your views on the ego and how you manage to keep it in check. This is your meeting and I would like to hear from all of you; if not this topic, then please share on anything that is bothering you today.
Hugs and best wishes for a great day.
Laura G.
6/17/89
Nov 19: Working the Program
Working the Program
Hi all. I learned a very important lesson in the last month so I thought I’d share. I have a few things I do consistently to work my program. I call/text my sponsor every day. I commit to 3 weekly F2F meetings. I do a daily meditation and post it to an AA Facebook page. And I do my daily readings on here.
About 3 week’s ago, I started getting complacent. I skipped some F2F meetings. I wasn’t consistent with my sponsor. I wasn’t reading my daily GROW emails. It didn’t take long before I landed myself in the hospital. I was only 1 step away from relapse. I’m not saying I wouldn’t have ended up in the hospital if I had been faithful to my program but I sure would’ve had a better chance. That incident showed me how important it really is to continue working my program to the best of my ability.
What are some things you do to consistently work your program? Thanks all! Have a great week!
Hugs,
Gayla
11/20/15
Nov 12: Sharing the Miracles
Sharing the Miracles
There have been many little miracles have happened since I got sober. To someone else, they might have had no significance but, for me, the coming together of certain happenings in a way that struck me deeply, and brought great meaning and a sense of a Power who cared and was looking after me, has deepened the bond I have with my Higher Power.
I’m not going to give the dictionary definition of ‘miracle’. Suffice it to say there are many views on what constitutes one. It doesn’t have to be the breaking of natural laws (like rising from the dead or growing new legs after we lost them!).
I’m asking you to share anything you feel was miraculous to you.
Some things stand out for me. But really there have been countless times I’ve stood still and just thought.. . wow.
I’ll share two things that stand out. At a year sober, my friend and I took over the franchise on a leisure centre snack bar. One day we were in dire straits wondering how we would pay the Coca Cola man (this was a long time ago before health consciousness was that developed lol)… we owed him ?184.10.
Now, our little cafe was loved by the people but there was never a huge amount of customers coming through. That day, after handing it over, an unexpected busload of folk came in and guess how much our till showed at the end of the day… ?184.10 (this was 1983…)! We were dumbfounded and in awe. (My partner was newly sober too).
Another time, at many years sober, and struggling as a single parent to even put together the fuel costs, I drove my 13 year old to a fencing competition a few hours’ drive away. I’d packed a simple picnic lunch for us. Our car was an old banger. We got lost on the way, and after futile attempts to find darn Pontefract, even my son agreed we’d have to give up. Feeling a right failure, I began the journey home. Out of nowhere, a sign for Pontefract popped up. In a race against time, we arrived just as it was beginning.
To cut a long story short, our little banger sat among top of the range cars… Jags, Rolls, Mercedes . . it was a very posh private school the competition was being held in. But we were not deterred.. (my son loved his sport and was very talented). However, great feelings of despondency did come over me as we parked up, thinking of how little financially we had… (I’d walked away from a toxic marriage and a 6-bedroomed house with virtually nothing material to my name)
A few hours later, we left there, my son clutching this huge trophy! He’d come first!! Cars didn’t matter… financial status didn’t matter… my guy had the talent and money couldn’t buy that.
We had an amazing drive home.. we shared together, this boy of mine and me, of spiritual values, of it all being an inside job. (He would go on to get a 1st at university and a Masters after. But his greatest achievement to date has been the celebration of 2 years’ sobriety last week. He went on a few years after the fencing victory to discover alcohol)
Please share if you can anything that has left you feeling… wow.
If you can’t think of any (yet), feel free to share about anything related to alcoholism.
With love in fellowship
Louise
Nov 05: Let Go, Let God
Let Go, Let God
Hi guys! I’m Sarah, alcoholic. So grateful to be of service today and keep my head on solution and not trash ! Lol!
I have experienced some real miracles when I Let go and let god- and listen to that whisper inside my gut- not sure how I come to “let go” sometimes but it usually involves a very high level of pain ?. Today I can let go of custody stuff and my ex and current situations and really trust god – it’s an amazing relationship that I never anticipated and it’s very slowly grown over the years as I have began to trust my higher power. I’m still not sure what it is but it’s good and it’s the good in everyone – that’s how I see God. I am an impatient, imperfect alcoholic women and I get in there and screw things up but when I sit back and think– deep down I know what to do and that’s god for me- and today I know I can trust Him 100% even if it still feels like jumping off a ledge sometimes- can’t wait to hear your experience strength and hope – love you all thanks for keeping me sober today 🙂 oxoxoxox
Sarah K.
Oct 29: Contempt Prior to Investigation
Contempt Prior to Investigation
Hi! Thank you for allowing me to be of service this week. I’m so excited because this is my first time to Chair a GROW meeting! So here goes!
“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation.” – Herbert Spencer – BB, Appendix II, Spiritual Experience
So, luckily I came into this program with an open mind towards spirituality. I was able to see God working fairly quickly in my life and others. I was able to surrender and keep surrendering. I have also experienced many who cannot come by spiritual experiences this easily.
This quote struck me in a different way as well. The contempt prior to investigation. I am a very quick judge of character. I am quick to come to conclusions and am very stubborn. All character defects that I can own up to today. When I look back, I realize how ignorant I willingly kept myself just because I had chosen to judge a situation first, rather than dig in to see the truth.
My dark and twisty thoughts usually come from holding contempt against someone or something. Whether it be a wrong done or a wish that never came true. But once I decide to investigate and reflect on said contempt, it usually turns out that there is nothing to be upset about.
Going back to the passage stated above, if you are having trouble accepting the Higher Power of this program or the spiritual experiences we talk about, just try to have an open mind. You don’t have to believe in my God. Just be willing to believe in something. Investigate and try it out before you cement your contempt in your mind. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be in “everlasting ignorance” about anything!
I’m glad I didn’t have this contempt. But I do have it in others areas and needed this reminder to stay willing to see the other side before I make judgments.
Please share on this or anything that’s on your mind.
Sending hugs from Texas!
Amanda 8/3/2016
Oct 22: Not My Circus, Not My Monkeys
Not My Circus, Not My Monkeys
Before I came into the rooms, I thought I didn’t have much of an ego. When I butted into conversations or gave advice, I thought I was just doing my “Mama Bear” thing.
Once I started working with my sponsor, a whole new side of me came to light. She showed me how my Mama Bear-ism was nothing more than my big, fat ego raising its ugly, nosy head. I was shocked! Me? Self-centered? WHAAAA??! I truly had no idea.
At 2.5 years sober, I’ve developed a keen awareness of how unsolicited advice can often be seen as criticism. I must restrain always. However, I can ask, “Are you open for input?” This gives the person the right to grant me permission or to decline. If they agree to it, I go forth. If not, I repeat to myself, “Not my circus; not my monkeys.”
“Not my circus; not my monkeys” has made a profound difference in my life. It keeps me in my own lane. It tells me to ignore conversations and situations I have no business inviting myself into. It stops me from judging. Talk about freeing!!! Talk about serenity!!! Talk about peace!!!
I must admit, though, this newfound peace can feel uncomfortable at times. The lack of stimulating drama and not making everything about me has been quite an adjustment. I’m slowly getting used to a quieter and more present self, as are my family and friends. When they ask if something’s wrong or if I’m okay, I simply give them a smile and say that I’m just listening, which they seem to appreciate.
My efforts to send my Mama Bear back to wherever the h*## she came from are far from perfect, but I am making progress. I’ll keep doing so if I’m completely willing to mind my own circus, mind my own monkeys and no one else’s.
Thank you, my sobriety sisters, for letting me share and chair.
xoxoruth 4/13/15
Oct 15: Complacency
Complacency
“Complacency can be defined as a feeling of contentment or self satisfaction (I’m cured now), especially when coupled with an unawareness of danger, trouble or controversy (drama). To say an individual is acting complacently means that they are taking things for granted. When we grow complacent, (usually begins with a cocky attitude of boredom), we aren’t doing what we need in order to grow and move forward. We stand still or move in reverse. That’s a dangerous place for me. When a member suggests I have grown complacent, I need to take measures to jump start working the Program in its entirety, daily, as it should be. Gratitude lists, working with others, doing the Steps. Reading the Big Book, reminds me that I have a disease. One that wants me dead but will settle for me drunk. I’m certain the awareness of becoming complacent does not escape me, it’s when I ignore it is when it is a danger.
Are you aware when you decide to stay sober on yesterdays work? What do you do to counteract this dilemma?
The floor is now open for discussion.
Oct 08: The Path – Surrendering
The Path – Surrendering
“Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path.”
I have been thinking about this statement a lot lately. My sponsor recently sat with me and read the whole chapter. The thoroughly part often gets me. I’m pretty good at sitting on the fence. I’m also decent at regurgitating the “right” answer. But thoroughly…that’s hard. Thoroughly is about surrendering over and over. It’s about facing my secrets and facing my demons. Thoroughly is looking at me. No B.S. Today I walked a 1/2 marathon with two friends. The path was laid out for us. All we had to do was follow the path. There was support and aid along those 13.1 miles. BUT no one could walk the path for me. It was up to me to march forward. To complete the course. I did it. It wasn’t exactly pretty. And neither is my life journey. But I want what the old timers have. I am willing more then ever to press on. So it’s about surrendering my will and staying on course–on the beam.
The meeting is now open
Thanks for listening.
Karrie
Oct 01: Looking for Similarities
Looking for Similarities
Hi! My name is Julie and I’m a grateful alcoholic. Thank you for allowing me to be of service this week.
When I first came into the program of Alcoholics Anonymous, I was overwhelmed with how much I could relate to the people that I heard speak in my face-to-face meetings.
In the first few weeks, though, I started to focus on the differences. I think I was in denial that I truly was an alcoholic.
My sponsor and many people in the rooms after the meetings would encourage me to look for the similarities.
It was a challenge to push myself, but I’m so glad that I did it.
Looking at our similarities has allowed me to be more patient, tolerant, loving and kind not only to my family but to people out in the world.
I say I’m grateful to be an alcoholic because I finally have a program, a design for a living, that truly helps me live my best life.
I feel we are all brothers and sisters walking on this planet. It has taken me a long time to come to this point. But today I believe that looking at each other and looking at our similarities, it allows me to be a kinder and gentler person. It also reminds me of the insanity that I existed in before getting sober.
No, I never had a dui, I didn’t go to jail. I didn’t lose my job or my family. But I lost myself to this disease. And should I decide one day that maybe I’m not alcoholic, these are things that could happen. I have a healthy fear of that happening!
I hope that this topic resonates in some way. I wanted to share this topic specifically because I’m happy to have many new ladies join our group this week.
If you think you have a problem with alcohol, you’re in the right place. There is a lot of great sobriety in this group. I encourage you to try and stay open to growing, learning, and changing. It’s amazing what following some suggestions and looking at the similarities has done for me in my life in such a short amount of time.
Please share on this or anything that’s on your mind.
Julie K
5/17/12
Sep 16: Surrender
Surrender
I was especially touched lately by the introduction of some of our new members. They describe the confusion, desperation and fear I felt before finally asking for help. I thought I was doing the things in life that would make me happy and make me feel fulfilled. But I was not happy or fulfilled. I was lonely, scared, angry and full of pride. I had prayed for a couple of years for help with the drink problem. The answer was always the same, AA. I knew nothing about AA, but I was NOT going there and saying out loud that I was alcoholic. There was also fear of giving up alcohol, it had been the solution at one time, it took away the fear, the low self-esteem, made me more outgoing socially and I felt part of when at happy hours and parties.
But happy hours and parties were long gone. I was sitting at home alone drinking myself drunk every night and starting early in the morning on week-ends and holidays. So, I finally surrendered and went to an AA meeting. I will celebrate 28 years in a few days and I am utterly amazed and grateful for the life I have today.
Who knew all I had to do was give up? I hung on to a few things in the big book,
“Rarely have we seen a person fail…”, “Abandon yourself to God…” “Let go absolutely…”
For a topic, I suggest people share on what surrender looks like to them and if it has worked. My best prayers are “Thy will be done” and “Direct my thinking”. When I quit fighting and trust God good things happen and I learned how to quit fighting by working steps and being an active member of AA.
Sep 23: What’s in your Toolbox?
What’s in your Toolbox?
Hello Ladies, Jennifer here, alkie.. very sorry to be late.. had every intention of doing this before hand and having it ready, however, life happened..
First off, congrats to all who have celebrated this month and welcome to our new members. I don’t post very much, however, I do read and love the ESH of this group. I’ve been a member for many years, have done service work in the past (I always say, BD-before disability) and like to chair a couple times a year to be of service these days.
My sober date is September 30, 1992 – which means, if HP graces me with a few more 24 hours, I will celebrate 25 yrs in this program this coming Saturday. Over the years, I have acquired many tools of the program. From the beginning, it was suggested that I gain a sponsor..I did..It was suggested I formally do the steps, I did, a few times over..it was suggested I be of service and I did..and still do as I can..and I read the BB, many times over.I have not always done what was suggested..I walked away from the program for many years..not being sponsored and not sponsoring..thank HP that I still had the tools of the program so that I did not physically relapse, however, I did emotionally and spiritually many times. I walked back into the program of AA at 14 yrs sober and never looked back! Again very lucky to have kept sober that whole time (dry actually).
Today, I am able to finally make 1-2 F2F mtgs a week and I use the internet (video mtgs live) for the times I am unable to get out of the house, and, of course, there is our group GROW!! There is NO excuse today for me not to make a mtg. It is in those meetings that I fine tune my tools, get reminded that I may need to use my tools and even still do add to my tool box. I also recently asked a new lady to sponsor me and it’s been the best thing I did for myself in the last couple years. I’m following suggestions and working this program daily, even in the midst of a lot of chaos recently with the hurricanes and other stuff I’ll mention below, I’ve not found it necessary to drink over any of it and for that I am grateful!
When you are a sober gal, dealing with health challenges, there are set backs that are unavoidable. I’ve had to reinvent myself in what my abilities are at the time many times over. I could sit on my pity pot or as my dear friend use to say, I could get up and flush and move on. One of my tools is sayings..This too shall pass, one day at a time, one hour at a time, one min at a time, one sec at a time..one breath at a time..Just breath..I’ve been using that one a lot.
The awesome thing about the tools of the program..is that I can share them today, even with normies. One of my best friends in the world just got diagnosed with Cancer the last couple weeks and I am able to be present today and share our sayings and our teachings to assist her with her fear and anxieties..to connect to something greater then herself (which she already has) and to help remind her that we are not in charge..all we can do is the footwork and HP has the rest.
So, I hope this made sense..I’m a bit all over the place hence the lateness so I appreciate your patience with me today. I guess there could be a couple topics in there but my point was to bring home that the program affords us so many tools to allow us to live a sober life today.
Would love to hear what is in your tool box?
Sep 09: Discipline, Practice, and Resting on our Laurels
Discipline, Practice, and Resting on our Laurels
“We alcoholics are undisciplined. So we let God discipline us in the simple way we have just outlined (step 10).” – Pg. 88 BB
Discipline:
~Merriam-Webster
Eeeek! Discipline! Who wants that?
I do actually. When I was new to the program, the suggestion that I go to 90 meetings in 90 days seemed outrageous. I didn’t do anything every day except blink and go to the bathroom. Some days I didn’t sleep, eat, shower, tend to personal hygiene. I just did what I wanted when I wanted and didn’t do anything I didn’t want to do unless I absolutely had to. I did do my 90 meetings in 90 days because after talking with my sponsor, I realized I had to try her suggestions to stay sober or face the consequences.
Now some time has passed, I’ll have 7 years in 9 days. Life is bigger and more beautiful than I have ever dreamed. I have much more discipline than I used to, but still have much room to grow. I still struggle to pray and meditate everyday. I struggle with regular meeting attendance. I do my 10th step most nights, but not every night.
I find it easy to work my program hard when life is hard and painful, but when life is easy and sweet… my discipline diminishes.
How do you stay disciplined in your recovery? What do you actually do every day for your recovery? Do you really honestly do it every day? How do you do that?
If you have relapsed, how did resting on your laurels and being undisciplined contribute to that?
Give me your experience strength and hope ladies!
Sep 02: Spiritual Malady in our Threefold Illness
Spiritual Malady in our Threefold Illness
The definition of a Spiritual Malady is:
Malady means disconnect or separation. So therefore a spiritual malady is a separation or disconnect from spiritual things. This can mean a separation or disconnect from other human beings, spiritual principles, a spiritual higher power etc. Spiritual things are not merely religion but are defined by each individual uniquely as the guiding force in their lives-something that is greater than them or principles they live by.
The disconnect for me from God happen when I was a little girl. I wasn’t firmly grounded in the love and knowing of my Father, so it didn’t take much to separate me from that which I didn’t know. Me and little boy played “you show me yours and I show you mine”….at like age 4. The guilt of that weighed HEAVY on me from that moment on. Doesn’t seem like much, but it was enough to put me on a path of Shame, Guilt and Remorse which then resulted in being Restless, Irritable and Discontent.
If any sort of happy thought or excitement tried to enter me in childhood, it was immediately squashed by the memory of doing that. My sexuality was strong at a very young age that boys and men picked up on. It made me feel gross, nervous, and overcome with anxiety. Sex was then attached to everything from my head into my stomach. I developed an ulcer and unrelenting sadness and guilt. No room for God.
The obsession of the mind was BOYS before booze. I was reading my dairy from age 8-15 and WOW…All consumed by boys. I see that they were my Higher Power! No room for God. Then when I became sexually active it made the guilt worse. I was used by boys and used boys. I was seeking the same feeling I got from the “first kiss”, kinda like the feeling I got from my “first buzz”….Chasing a feeling I could never get back no mater how many boys or how many drinks….The obsession, guilt, shame, self loathing, fear, low self worth, humiliation, hopelessness, etc….Leaves absolutely no room for God!
to fill the void of my spiritual malady….I of course blamed God!. What I didn’t realize was that God, like any loving parent, waits patiently for me to come home to Him when I am done rebelling. At that time I would only call “home” to him when something was wrong and then would curse him if it/they failed. God can’t dwell in the darkness that I was in until I sought him. He could, would, and did once I let him in sobriety.
Using people to fill a void then using alcohol to numb the pain of what I was doing and creating. As a child, I of course had no control over what happen to me. What I do have a choice in is if I continue to prey upon others because of it. Forgiving the predators of my youth, knowing that they were preyed upon as well, and taking full accountability for the harm I caused others, stopped the cycle of predatory behavior. If I am getting fed through God then I am not draining you like a parasite that feeds off someone to feed what it’s lacking.
Even if my behavior and actions weren’t as server as those who preyed on me, I was still contributing to the pattern of using human beings to get fed. That’s what they were doing using me to get fed….It’s a terrible cycle happening in this world. Over time my soul was almost depleted by what I had done. Humans looking to be filled no matter who gets hurt.
Thankfully I found my way into AA and was given a set of spiritual tools to work with. These “tools” if given to all of us as children would save the world a lot of suffering!! These simple tools and Faith in my Father, stopped the cycle chaos and pain. It removed the guilt through the 4th step and gave me peace in the 5th Step. It showed me what defects were driving me the 6th Step. It made me accountable in the 9th Step….I was clean and ready to serve the Power that got and keeps me sober through service to Him by service to his children.
Selflessness, gratitude, love, service and compassion combats the self certeredness, self seeking, self pity, victim hood and selfishness which is at the core of my dis-ease that kept the malady going for so long. The more I fed “Self”, the worse I got. This is a Selfless program. You can’t combat Selfishness with more selfishness. This is the reason that “self help” didn’t work for me. Less self, more God. Feeding the God in me by service to His children is the only way I found to freedom from the looping of my personal hell.
Please share on your experience accepting Spiritual help or your experience with service to others and how it has transformed you.
Love, safe and protected in the Armor of God!
Hilarie 4.8.14
“There is a solution. Almost none of us liked the self-searching, the leveling of our pride, the confession of shortcomings which the process requires for its successful consummation. But we saw that it really worked in others, and we had come to believe in the hopelessness and futility of life as we had been living it. When, therefore, we were approached by those in whom the problem had been solved, there was nothing left for us but to pick up the simple kit of spiritual tools laid at our feet. We have found much of heaven and we have been rocketed into a fourth dimension of existence of which we had not even dreamed.
The great fact is just this, and nothing less: That we have had deep and effective spiritual experiences which have revolutionized our whole attitude toward life, toward our fellows and toward God’s universe. The central fact of our lives today is the absolute certainty that our Creator has entered into our hearts and lives in a way which is indeed miraculous. He has commenced to accomplish those things for us which we could never do by ourselves. Pg 25-Big Book
Aug 27: What I Know Now
What I Know Now
When I stumbled into AA 2-1/2 years ago, I was beaten down and scared. You people, happy and confident, told me that there is a solution and to keep coming back. I didn’t know how “it” was going to work, but you assured me it would. Looking back, I’m humbled and a little baffled by it all.
When I started this journey, I thought I would never have fun again if I had to be sober. Actually, some of the most fun times I have ever had have been spent with my sober friends. To be a welcome part of the group, to laugh so hard I cry, and to remember it all the next morning is a treat I wouldn’t give up for all the wine in Napa. Since Day 1 I literally have never once woken up in the morning and thought, “Dang, I really wish I had gotten drunk last night!” But every day, I say a prayer of thanks that I am a sober member of AA today.
At the beginning of this journey, I didn’t believe that I would ever feel comfortable in sobriety. In an awesome twist of irony, my sobriety is now the one thing I can depend on when everything else is falling apart. It’s what I count on to keep me moving forward, left foot right foot, when things are spiraling beyond my control. I hang onto my sobriety before everything else now.
So tell us: what do you know now that you wish you had known on day 1 of your sobriety? What did the old timers tell you when you were new to the rooms that you didn’t believe could be possible but now is a big part of your daily life? Which of your wildest dreams has come in sobriety?
I look forward to hearing your shares on this topic, or whatever is affecting your sobriety today!
Hugs, Allison McG
Aug 20: Acceptance
Acceptance
Hello lovely ladies of GROW,
Marti here, grateful recovering alcoholic and grateful to be here and be of service! Welcome to the newcomers! It has been quite a long time since I have actively participated. I have remained quiet and still sober through the grace of my Higher Power who I call God.
I would like to start out with the “Acceptance” passage from p. 417 in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous.
Page 417 Acceptance
A.A. Big Book – Acceptance is the answer to ALL of my problems today. When I am disturbed, it is because I find some person, place, thing or situation- some fact of my life- unacceptable to me, and I can find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing, or situation as being exactly the way it is supposed to be at this moment. Nothing, absolutely nothing, happens in God’s world by mistake. Until I could accept my alcoholism, I could not stay sober; unless I accept my life completely on life’s terms, I cannot be happy. I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and in my attitudes.
I have had lately a lot of unmanageability and chaos here in my house- specifically with my 18 year old daughter who just went off to college. I feel like I have had several emotional hangovers in the past week alone. She has a lot of anger towards me regarding my drinking history and also of my not being around much when she was younger due to going to AA meetings. She has seen me relapse multiple times over the years since 2008. I am so grateful that I have been able to stay sober on a daily basis since July of 2016. I am trying to be a good role model for her also which I don’t know if she really sees.
I am powerless over people- my daughter-, places and things. I cannot change her, and I need to fully understand and accept that she is who she is right now and to stop wishing that she would act and respond differently to me. I must accept that she is the person who she is right now and be okay with it. Acceptance has always been difficult for me. I want everything to be just right- to have things the way I want and when I want. LOL- real alcoholic thinking!! It’s a matter of working that Step 3 also- to turn Everything and Everybody over to my Higher Power.
I am grieving in a way also the fact that both she and my son are away at college. They are both very far away now. I have been so emotional and missing them so much. I am longing for the days when they were young. Acceptance again- they are where they are supposed to be for this time being, and I am where I need to be at this time. I have been praying the Serenity Prayer a lot which also helps! I am learning to adjust to this transition and to remain sober while I go through it. Sobriety must always remain my Number One priority!! I also must not hold on to any resentments towards my daughter. She had said some very hurtful things to me before we took her to college. I also realized that I do not know what is really going on in other people’s head, and that they may be experiencing a lot of fear just like I do.
One more thing about acceptance. I had lost another nursing job just this past June- I was still under my 90 days probation. I thought it was going to be my “dream job.” Well it did not work out, and I was told that it was not the “right fit” for me. I am actually relieved and grateful that it happened and, I have accepted it. It allowed me the opportunity to change careers and to pursue a different “calling” which I am very passionate about.
Thank you for the opportunity to be of service. Dear sober friends, I look forward to reading your shares. Pleases share on the topic of Acceptance, how to deal with transitions or any other topic that is on your mind.
Love and Hugs, Marti DOS 7-4-16
Aug 12: We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace
We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace
Thank you GROW for giving me the opportunity to chair this week. My name is Nydia and I am an alcoholic. Congrats also to all others celebrating a milestone at this time. Thank you to the many ladies here I have gotten to know over the past several years.
I honestly hadn’t thought of the topic until I came back after my long Sunday morning run. I turned to one of the meditations books I use and the reading was about struggling to get our own ways. Knowing it was futile but nonetheless, trying to get something the way I want it to be. It got me thinking of he ways I try to change a situation/ place/ person or thing – asking, pleading, bargaining, bribing, coercing, forcing, blackmailing, threatening, manipulating… oh the list is endless.
Having recently survived ADD (another dating disaster) whilst at the same time, trying to work on my own as an independent, I am taken aback by how much my HP has helped me to live in the present and be still. Wounds still remain and I am not out of the woods (yet) but I there is something that struck me this morning when I was having breakfast – I truly believe, if I continue to work the programme, I will continue to comprehend the word serenity and know peace – no matter what the circumstances are around me. There’s a moment when I am running I see the trees and the sky and the water and it is such a calming moment. That’s when I hear it – let it go, there’s no need to hold on. No pleading or bargaining or forcing…
So at 9 years I have picked one of the 9th step promises 🙂
What does it mean to you to comprehend the word serenity, and to know peace?
Hugs, Nydia
Aug 05: A Worker Among Workers
A Worker Among Workers
Hello GROW!
This week I wanted to share a passage from Step 4 in the 12 X 12 (p. 53).
As we redouble our efforts at control, and continue to fail, our suffering becomes acute and constant. We have not once sought to be one in a family, to be a friend among friends, to be a worker among workers, to be a useful member of society. Always we tried to struggle to the top of the heap, or to hide underneath it. This self-centered behavior blocked a partnership relation with any one of those about us. Of true brotherhood we had small comprehension.
This was me, when I came into AA.
I felt such hope and excitement when I got the news that I could learn to be a friend among friends. A worker among workers: and that this was enough.
Today I don’t have to be perfect or figure everything out by myself. I just have to stop drinking, offer help, ask for help, and apologize when I screw up.
I am a worker among workers. Remembering this makes my life so much easier and it gives my ego the vacation it needs.
So, my plan each day at work is: be of service.
This keeps me open to what unfolds, as opposed to my agenda. It keeps me in Step 12. And it reminds me that I’m not the best and I’m not the worst. I’m an average-sized part of something bigger. And that’s exactly what my HP wants for me.
How do you relate to the above passage? How have you learned to reach out to your fellows in sobriety? What changes have you seen in your partnerships as a result of working the Steps?
I’m looking forward to your shares on this topic or whatever is on your heart this week.
Thank you for allowing me to be of service.
Kirsten
Jul 29: The Three Pertinent Ideas
The Three Pertinent Ideas
Hello dear GROWers, and thank you for allowing me to chair this meeting this week. I know that we have some new members in the past few months, many of whom are new to AA. The topic for this week is found at the end of the reading (from the chapter “How It Works, pp. 58 – 60 in the Big Book) done in so many meetings in the rooms of AA, in the (a), (b), and (c).
(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives.
(b) That probably no human power could relieve our alcoholism.
(c) That God could and would if God were sought.
I have reflected on each of these ideas many times. To me, understanding of the nature of my dis-ease of alcoholism came gradually after I stopped drinking. I had little awareness of what my problem actually was during my active drinking and drugging years. My disease is not based on the fact that I cannot control how much I drink; that is simply a symptom. My illness goes much deeper than that one symptom in particular. That just happens to be the one that got my attention! My disease is rooted in my ideas of my importance (selfishness), the actions I believe to be worth my time and effort, primarily drinking and drugging to escape any difficulties I am experiencing (self-seeking), my inability to see and to accept what is going on, also known as “denial” (dishonesty) and the abject fear that underlies all of these (afraid / fear). These were a part of my nature long before I ever picked up a drink or a drug. This state of mind is known as “the obsession”.
The second idea, that no human power can help me, means that treatment centers, doctors and nurses, therapists, family members, friends, lovers, children, bosses, coworkers, places of employment, churches, pastors, ministers, the legal system, lawyers, the police, jails and institutions, and all others will not be able to stop me from feeling these feelings and wanting to run from them by using a substance. Indeed, the substance will cause physical triggers known as “the allergy”. The allergy is the part that causes so many of the humiliating consequences that I suffered, and it is also the part of my disease that makes me aware that I have a disease.
The third idea is the one that truly helps me. Belief in a Power greater than myself, however I choose to define it, and calling on that Power when I need help, is the solution to my problem. The Steps of our beautiful program give us a path, an easy way to put spiritual principles to work in our day-to-day lives. I don’t do these steps alone; I do them with someone who sponsors me and once I do that, I go on to do them with others I sponsor. I don’t do them one time and call it done; I use them on a daily basis for the rest of my life, in every single problem I have. When I do this, I find the relief that humans alone cannot give.
It may seem a bit confusing, because so much of my help is channeled through humans. Humans often show me the way to put these principles to work in my life, either overtly in AA meetings and sponsor-sponsee Step work, or less directly in therapy or life as a whole. These principles are the answer; they are the Power greater than myself; they are of God, Allah, Buddha, the universe, or whatever we choose to call that Power greater than ourselves that keep us sober today.
This week, please share with us how these three pertinent ideas, or any single one of them, gets your attention. Is it the lack of being able to manage that got you here? Have you tried human power, and what was the result? How about a Power greater than yourself? How has that worked for you? Does a sponsor help you with these? Please share on these or any part of this reading that is helpful to you in staying sober today.
Hugs to all who want one, gigi
Jul 22: Paradoxes in our Program
Paradoxes in our Program
There are a few paradoxes in the program of Alcoholics Anonymous and “We Surrender to Win” is one that is essential to “get” in order to go further on this journey. I had to surrender to a Power Greater Than Myself before I could get out of my silly self that got me in so much trouble before joining AA. I lived my entire life on self will and, in retrospect, I can see today that this way of looking at life led me to nothing but chaos and unmanageability! Yep – –it took some time – –as early on I DID, in fact, have some fun times, living in the “fast lane”. In the end it led me to nothing but misery and in prison
Here are some of the paradoxes that have worked for me in this program:
“1. We SURRENDER TO WIN. On the face of it, surrendering certainly does not seem like winning. But it is in A.A. Only after we have come to the end of our rope, hit a stone wall in some aspect of our lives beyond which we can go no further; only when we hit “bottom” in despair and surrender, can we accomplish sobriety which we could never accomplish before. We must, and we do, surrender in order to win.
2. We GIVE AWAY TO KEEP. That seems absurd and untrue. How can you keep anything if you give it away? But in order to keep whatever it is we get in A.A., we must go about giving it away to others, for no fees or rewards of any kind. When we cannot afford to give away what we have received so freely in A.A., we had better get ready for our next drunk. It will happen every time. We’ve got to continue to give it away in order to keep it.
3.We SUFFER TO GET WELL. There is no way to escape the terrible suffering of remorse and regret and shame and harassment which starts us on the road to getting well from our affliction. There is no new way to shake out a hangover. It’s painful. And for us, necessarily so. I told this to a friend of mine as he sat weaving to and fro on the side of the bed, in terrible shape, about to die for some paraldehyde. I said, ‘Lost John’- that’s his nickname-Lost John, you know you’re going to have to do a certain amount of shaking sooner or later. “Well, he said, for God’s sake let’s make it later!” We suffer to get well.
4.We DIE TO LIVE. That is a beautiful paradox straight out of the Biblical idea of being ‘born again or ‘losing one’s life’ to find it. When we work at our Twelve Steps, the old life of guzzling and fuzzy thinking, and all that goes with it, gradually dies, and we acquire a different and a better way of life. As our shortcomings are removed, one life of us dies, and another life of us lives. We in A.A. die to live.”
second edition, Alcoholics Anonymous
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I have found that I have “won the battle” by giving the program of AA my all. Today I have total trust in my HP (Higher Power) and give myself to Him/Her every morning as a part of my morning rituals of prayer and meditation. I no longer resist what is and accept everything as an “opportunity for growth” instead of as a “problem”! I have found that EVERYTHING is just the way it is supposed to be and all I have to do is go with the flow, praying for guidance all the way!
IT WORKS WHEN I WORK IT, and doesn’t when I don’t!
I look forward to our shares on how the paradoxes work in your life.
Susanne L. Murphys, CA 8/17/91
Jul 15: Fear and (Self) Loathing in Sobriety
Fear and (Self) Loathing in Sobriety
Hi everyone!
Greetings all!! I come to you grateful and sober in Texas. This is my birthday week for 42 and for 5mos sobriety! Yay me! I am excited to host a meeting and nervous because I am responsible to give a great topic! I wish I had something prepared that I knew would be “just right” or that would inspire a revolution of sorts… however, I know that I’m barely a legitimate AA member and still so very green. I can only hope my humble participation will inspire others to speak up and share because well, hopefully you can’t do worse than me!! lol
I have learned my share of lingo and believe myself to have a fairly high bottom which is not bragging because I was only a drink away from the lowest bottom. I lack in the confidence to share or I guess of feeling important enough. Perhaps like many I have trust issues, I’m hard headed, I’m selfish, insecure, lazy, and a bit of a whiner. Perhaps these are those character defects that I need to ask my HP to remove?!! Maybe this is my topic!?!
All in all I have a very healthy fear of relapse and I’m not entirely sure what a dry drunk is but I know I don’t want that! So I lead today proud of 5 months sobriety and thirsty for encouragement. Thanks in advance to those that can find a topic in here somewhere and share with us newbies on fear and (self)loathing in sobriety. Perhaps I make sense to them!
Grace and Blessings, Brenda C DOS 2/21/17
Jul 8: Practicing Gratitude
Practicing Gratitude
July, 2017, marks 33 years of my sobriety in AA, and for this I’m deeply grateful.
I was fortunate to recognize the disease early in the progression, to surrender to how dangerous it is, and to connect with the people and principles of Alcoholics Anonymous. Most of the credit for my early acceptance goes to members of the Fellowship who told their stories honestly and fearlessly, no matter how horrible. I identified with them; I had the same disease.
So I worked with a sponsor and followed the Steps and Traditions to the best of my ability. The treatment plan was spelled out in the Big Book. “A.A. does not teach us how to handle our drinking…it teaches us how to handle sobriety.” Something my sponsor taught me to do when fearful or angry: make a gratitude list.
More importantly, I was taught to practice gratitude by helping other alcoholics.
How do you practice the gratitude you feel? – Lucine
Jul 01: A Power Greater Than Ourselves
A Power Greater Than Ourselves
When I entered the rooms of AA I was a Christian so I did not struggle with the God concept.
Everyone has their own story.
Some come into the rooms angry at God, some come in believing in God, and some do not believe in God.
As I was preparing today I noticed six out of 12 steps refers to either “a power greater than ourselves”, “God as we understand him”, “admitted to God”, ” have God remove all these defects of character”, and “humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.”
I don’t believe in coincidences. I believe in Miracles where God chooses to remains anonymous.
I opened the Twelve steps and Twelve traditions book and I read “that we are today sober only by the grace of God and that any success we may be having is far more His success than ours.”
I give God the credit where I am today.
I have a great sponsor, who listens to me endlessly, but numerous times she asks me “did you pray about it?”
I am interested in hearing how God has worked in your life, what your concept of God is or how your concept of a Higher Power has helped you on your journey in sobriety.
A few mantras that help keep me on track. Be still and know that I am God.
My job is to pray and God’s job is to deal with the chaos in my life. Let Go and Let God!!!
Feel free to share on this topic or any other topic you desire.
Thanks for listening and being a part of this meeting.
Jun 25: Secrets
Secrets
From the Big Book: “More than most people, the alcoholic leads a double life. He is very much the actor. To the outer world he presents his stage character. This is the one he likes his fellows to see. He wants to enjoy a certain reputation, but knows in his heart he doesn’t deserve it.”
Hello everyone- The other day I was listening to the radio and they were asking callers how much they would want to be paid to divulge their deepest, darkest secret to one person. I was amazed at some of the answers!
I thought about it for a minute and realized that, thanks to AA, I no longer have a deepest, darkest secret! Thanks to steps 4 and 5, I have aired my dirty laundry.
Secrets used to plague me and help me feel like that person with the reputation she didn’t deserve. Now I feel a sense of relief and freedom from my secrets. I have a tremendous weight lifted that I had carried for a long time.
How did secrets affect you when you were drinking and how do you feel about them now?
Feel free to share on this topic or any other topic you desire.
Thanks for listening and being a part of this meeting!
Jun 18: The Need to Change
The Need to Change
The need to change Laura came to me through my HP and long-time AA members. Once I experienced the relief and blessing of not having to take a drink when I was happy, sad, glad, angry, upset, etc., the ‘need’ to change became a ‘want’ instead. As the saying goes, AA is not for this who ‘need’ it but for those who ‘want’ it and I wanted desperately what you had. I couldn’t change everything all at once, but by learning and working through the Steps with my sponsor and listening to those who came before me, I realized that I had to change many things about myself if I were to remain sober. Thankfully, I learned that ours is a lifetime program and that there is no graduation date because it will take more than a lifetime to change/remove some of my character defects.
What have I needed to change? Many, many, many aspects of my character; i.e. I had to admit that I needed help from others instead of being too stubborn to ask for it or to even admit that I needed help. I needed to accept myself for who I am and am still working on loving the person I am. A former sponsor of mine told me that every time I looked it the mirror, I was to say, “I love you” which would help me to change my opinion of myself (this one, I’m also still working on) LOL!
The first thing I needed to do was to get help to stop drinking and my HP provided exactly what I needed. In sobriety, I have been able to build and maintain friendships and leave my drinking buddies behind. I needed to make time to listen and help others by giving away what was so freely given to me I needed to become more health-conscious about what I put into my body and how I take care of it; i.e. quit smoking. I have had to follow instructions and advice given by healthcare professionals instead of dismissing them without even trying their suggestions (contempt prior to investigation?). I have become aware of and grateful for the many, many blessings I have received in my life.
I would not change the last 28 years of my life in sobriety for anything. I have slowed down quite a bit due to age and health reasons but due to the Grace of God and you people, I am sober today. The compulsion to drink was removed as soon as I became serious about getting sober. I have regained my self-confidence and self-esteem, and have learned a lot about what makes me tick, found my Higher Power whom I call God, joined online AA groups, became a sponsor to a few, and found my niche in my life and the AA way of life.
What changes have you been able to make so far in sobriety? How do you feel about these changes? Please feel free to share on this topic or on anything that may be troubling you. I look forward to hearing from each of you.
Hugs, Laura G. 6/17/1989
Jun 11: Honesty and Hope
Honesty and Hope
Dear GROW Sisters,
I am so excited to be able to share on my 28th AA birthday and thank you to all of you who have written to congratulate me this morning.
It’s a miracle I got sober in the first place and another miracle – actually LOTS of miracles adding up to these many years! – that I am still sober. These two facts alone prove to me there is a Power Greater Than Myself in this Universe who has my highest good and wellbeing in mind. I have been shown grace and mercy over and over again. As dark and terrible and calamitous as my life became during my sobriety (and it got extremely dark from 2005 to 2015 with loss and illness), that Unseen Hand, my AA sponsors and friends and the spiritual program of action bequeathed to us by Bill and Dr. Bob (and Lois and the women in their lives) saw me through.
There were many times I didn’t think I would make it. Early on in the program and also as written in the Big Book, I was told that alcoholism will drive us into insanity, suicide or death, and actions that hurt others, even take their life or drive them into insanity. The first two (insanity, suicide) haunted me for many years in the program. I was always and still am grateful to read this in the opening of Chapter 5:
Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. […..] There are those, too, who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders, but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest.
The bolded sentence which I heard or read out loud at every meeting I ever attended gave me deep hope that I would someday, somehow, by mastering the magic key of “honesty,” I would find and experience the peace and serenity and feeling of belonging that I so desperately sought since being a very young child. I was from the onset one of those bewildered human beings, confused by the words and behaviors of the human beings around me, not understanding what my place was or where I belonged. (I blamed my alcoholic family for this for decades but truthfully my feelings were in depth about a longing for unity with Creation; more later).
Honesty, it turned out, was a tough one. With my limited scope of how to be a human being, I interpreted it to mean telling the truth no matter what or whose feelings I hurt or toes I stepped on. I was like the child who wants top marks for being that perfect student. Then I took notice of the saying on the back of AA anniversary coins of old, “To Thine Own Self Be True.” The phrase was first coined by a philosopher I admire deeply, Frederic Nietzsche, and in full, it reads:
“To Thine Own Self and Way be True.”
But who was I and what was my Way? With my limited scope of how to be a human being and my limited understanding of the human condition, I thought at first it meant living up to the expectations I had for and of myself, finally, unshackled from the compulsion to drink and the torment of active alcoholism. With zeal, I launched myself in my new life. I obtained degrees, tried out professional careers, finally achieved a position of stature. I had Power, Prestige and Money!
And I was still miserable inside, alienated from myself, full of internal conflict and emotional pain. I had moments of peace and serenity and I held onto those as proof I was working a good program (along with my attendance at AA meetings and service I did). Growing up in an alcoholic family, I knew how to put out a very good image. I also knew I had to work the program with greater sincerity – honesty! – but try as I may, I couldn’t complete a third round of going to the steps – I would stall at Step Four every time! Self-will was a formidable and dishonest foe.
I then hit in 2014 an emotional, physical, and spiritual rock bottom. All the Power, Prestige and Money gone in a pile up of illnesses and misfortunes in the space of 6 years. My worse fear came true: I ended up in a psychiatric ward for a week with some psychiatric and medical 14 diagnoses. I had become totally neurotoxic, literally and figuratively.
I look back 3 years later now as I find myself on the threshold of doing that third and so elusive 4th Step after almost 15 years of trying. I can say sincerely that everything that happened was in perfect Divine Order. This walk through life has been my Way. The breakdown was a breakthrough. Grace and Mercy were with me in the darkest hour such that I did not kill myself or end up locked up permanently. I came out to Arizona to detoxify body, mind, and soul. Finally, rising from the Phoenix’s ashes (near Phoenix in Sedona ha ha), I can for the first time in my life humble myself to a depth never before possible such that I can be me exactly as I AM in full honesty.
And it feels so truly good!
I am so grateful I hung in there and I am so grateful to AA for its powerful wisdom and for those that have tenaciously walked this Road Less Travelled before me.
Many blessings and thank you to all of you,
Gillian 6/11/1989
Jun 03: Meeting Suggestions
Meeting Suggestions
Hi there! My name is Julie and I’m a grateful alcoholic. One of the first things I heard in the meetings I attended were “suggestions.” No one was telling me what to do, they simply shared what worked for them. I was intrigued and I listened. By being honest, open and willing to follow these suggestions, I noticed changes in my life, how I approached life on life’s terms.
Some suggestions that worked for me, and continue to do so…
- Go to three meetings a week.
- Reach out to my sponsor three times a week.
- Call at least three alcoholics a day… I don’t do this and I really should. I try to call at least three a week.
- Wake up, hit my knees, and ask God for patience, tolerance, love and compassion… And to follow his will.
- Before bed, hit my knees, again, and thank God for another day sober.
- Humble yourself and ask for help.
- Make a gratitude list.
- Relax and take it easy.
- Trust and have faith.
- Get busy with service and carry the message.
- Keep it simple!
Please share with us what was suggested to you that works for you in your sobriety today!
Thank you for letting me be of service!
Julie K 5/17/12
May 27: Taking Action
Taking Action
Hey there friends. Karrie here, alcoholic. This week, I would like to talk about “taking action”. Most of my life I have evaded problems or ran away from them. I lived in fear and was paralyzed by those fears. I drank to self medicate. My counselor tells me that drinking only pushed the pause button on my/life’s issues. Typically, the pain of the issue has to get severe before I become willing to make a change. That has been true in a recent family situation. My sponsor says the universe gives us opportunity after opportunity to address issues and each time it gets a little harder.
When I first got sober, I thought that not drinking was good enough. After all, I drank because I had a terrible life and had been wronged and you would drink too if you had my life. Haha. But it’s been the process of living day by day and working the steps that has helped me start seeing my self and that I do need to take action.
I have been thinking a lot about this section in the big book–chapter “into action”
“The alcoholic is like a tornado roaring his way through the lives of others. Hearts are broken. Sweet relationships are dead. Affections have been uprooted. Selfish and inconsiderate habits have kept the home in turmoil. We feel a man is unthinking when he says that sobriety is enough. He is like the farmer who came up out of his cyclone cellar to find his home ruined. To his wife, he remarked, “Don’t see anything the matter here, Ma. Ain’t it grand the wind stopped blowin’?” Yes, there is a long period of reconstruction ahead. We must take the lead.”
I can identify with this farmer. I have often pretended the cyclone hasn’t ruined anything. Denial! I certainly don’t care for the idea that there is a long period of reconstruction ahead OR for the idea that I have to take the lead. BUT at this point I am acknowledging the problems in my family, I am addressing them with my husband and I am taking the lead to get counseling for my son and I. I have played the victim/martyr role my whole life. I am tired of it. Finally, I am ready to pull up my big girl panties and get to it.
The meeting is now open for discussion.
KarChaney